Daley's gun control legislation proposes 'micro-stamping'

[granuale]

One wonders what they will have to do to make Springfield Armory leave the state if not this?

Daley's gun control legislation proposes 'micro-stamping' pistols, harsher penalties


March 8, 2010
BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter
Mayor Daley today unveiled his annual package of gun control legislation and denied he's "swimming upstream" at a time when the U.S. Supreme Court has signaled its intention to overturn Chicago's handgun ban.

Most of the ideas are re-treads, but there are a few new wrinkles. They include a proposal to make it a mandatory Class 1 felony to "knowingly sell or transfer a gun to a known gang member."

Daley also wants to strengthen penalties for unlawful use of a weapon so those caught carrying loaded weapons are no longer, as he put it, "let off scot-free."

Yet another mayoral proposal would require semi-automatic pistols manufactured or delivered for sale in Illinois to be capable of "micro-stamping." The technology helps law enforcement link spent ammunition with the gun used to fire it.

Todd Vandermyde, the National Rifle Association's legislative liaison in Illinois, predicted that the mayor's package would go nowhere in the Illinois General Assembly.

"The pendulum has shifted -- politically and publicly. Many of the proposals the mayor has pitched year in and year out run afoul of what the Supreme Court is going to decide -- that there's an individual right to keep and own a firearm across the nation," he said.

Vandermyde scoffed at the mayor's proposal to raise the penalty against those who sell or transfer guns to "known gang members," arguing that there is "no nexus to criminal activity."

"I'm quite used to the mayor using the Second Amendment as toilet paper. But, now they want to use the First Amendment as a doormat and the due process guarantees of the 14th Amendment as a dishrag," he said.

At a news conference at police headquarters before the usual table-full of confiscated weapons, Daley flatly denied that the U.S. Supreme Court's widely-anticipated ruling makes this year's gun legislation dead-on-arrival in Springfield.

"I'm never swimming upstream. I think I'm swimming with the stream," he said.

Annette Nance-Holt's 16-year-old son, Blair, was gunned down in 2007 when a reputed gang member opened fire on a CTA bus crowded with students on their way home from Julian High School. As shots rang out, Blair sacrificed his own life to save a friend.

Today, Annette Nance-Holt once again channeled her anguish into an emotional plea for gun control.

"In a day when we're more concerned with obesity and second-hand smoke and animal rights, why are we not concerned about our children being murdered by handguns and assault weapons. Why are we not outraged?" Nance-Holt said.

"This is not a black issue. It's not a Hispanic issue. This is an American issue. These guns are out of control and our love [for] guns is out of control. Are they insane, or are we insane?"

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[donm]

One wonders what they will have to do to make Springfield Armory leave the state if not this?

Lucky for SA, XDs are made in Croatia. Leaving Illinois many years ago was one of my better moves. Their state constitution says it all: "Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

[HyDef]

Today, Annette Nance-Holt once again channeled her anguish into an emotional plea for gun control.

"In a day when we're more concerned with obesity and second-hand smoke and animal rights, why are we not concerned about our children being murdered by handguns and assault weapons. Why are we not outraged?" Nance-Holt said.

"This is not a black issue. It's not a Hispanic issue. This is an American issue. These guns are out of control and our love [for] guns is out of control. Are they insane, or are we insane?"



Really? Handguns and assault weapons are murdering our children? Not criminals? Guns are out of control? Not criminals?

[tsafa]

Annette Nance-Holt's 16-year-old son, Blair, was gunned down in 2007 when a reputed gang member opened fire on a CTA bus crowded with students on their way home from Julian High School. As shots rang out, Blair sacrificed his own life to save a friend.

Today, Annette Nance-Holt once again channeled her anguish into an emotional plea for gun control.

How about she channel her anguish in support of a mandatory death penalty for gang related murders under the provisions of the RICO Act that would hold all members within the gang equally responsible (regardless of age). Has Annette Nance-Holt made any "emotional pleas" to have the killer of her son executed? or will she go on some talk show and forgive the killer of her son because he is also a victim of a "gun" that took over his mind and "forced" him to kill.

She should channel her anguish against the soft, cowardly liberals that find it easier to attack the gun-rights of good people, rather then look gangmebers in the eye and watch them fry in the an electric chair. When they find the backbone to do this, then they can live in safety... until then they don't deserve safety.

They keep hoping for some easy answer that will magically stop violent crime but they refuse to do the difficult thing that will work.

Edit:
I think the key to beating down the Anti-Gun liberals is... throwing in their face that the reason for widespread violent crimes is because of their Anti-Death Penalty agenda. It strikes each their legs at the same time.

[crlovel]

I think the key to beating down the Anti-Gun liberals is... throwing in their face that the reason for widespread violent crimes is because of their Anti-Death Penalty agenda. It strikes each their legs at the same time.

An anti-death penalty agenda has nothing to do with this.

Gov't hand-outs breed apathy and a sense of entitlement. If you don't have to work for a living, you have nothing to live for. If you grow up in a broken household, or in a family that was never intact to begin with, you will miss out on something. No wonder they're killing each other. They have no sense of family or morality and a healthy sense of entitlement. The world owes them.

THAT is the root cause of this mess. The scary thing is, these people are oblivious to the fact that they are semi-willing participants in a system of economic slavery that is ten times worse than what blacks suffered hundreds of years ago. And they have their so-called "leaders," Progressive politicians, and themselves to thank for it.

[tsafa]

An anti-death penalty agenda has nothing to do with this.

Gov't hand-outs breed apathy and a sense of entitlement. If you don't have to work for a living, you have nothing to live for. If you grow up in a broken household, or in a family that was never intact to begin with, you will miss out on something. No wonder they're killing each other. They have no sense of family or morality and a healthy sense of entitlement. The world owes them.

I agree that the governments social wealthfare programs are a root cause why a lot of people can not develop economically and personally.

At the point that people join gangs, the damage is already done to these people. They can not live free among us any positive way. They can't hold a job. They have no choice but to commit crime to survive. The only possible way to control people who have reached this point, is with the fear of death. I realize that this would only deter a very small number of people... because like I said at the point where they join gangs, there is no coming back to normal society. Only thing to do is eliminate them from society. There is a good chance that this might deter those thinking of joining crime organizations. Perhaps if the oldest son is executed for gang murder, the parents might take an interest in telling the younger children not to join a gang. Part of the problem is that gang membership is considered a "cool" thing among a lot of inner city kids. That attitude must be changed. Seeing gang members from their own neighborhood executed might change their minds about how cool gangs are.

My feeling is that we have to offer the victims of violent crimes some realistic solution. It is not enough to just blame government for all the problems. That is the European approach. The liberals have made a strategic decision to blame the guns. It distracts much of the public from the failings of government with relation to dealing with violent crime. On our side we have to offer something solid to deal with violent crime. Pushing the death penalty for gang murder is something solid that people who are not big pro-gun fans can digest. It is a clear and direct solution to a problem. If they don't have the guts to execute gang murderers, then we have a solid footing in saying that its their own fault for not addressing the problem directly.

[Helter]

"Are they insane, or are we insane?"

You are.

[God's Country]

Gov't hand-outs breed apathy and a sense of entitlement. If you don't have to work for a living, you have nothing to live for. If you grow up in a broken household, or in a family that was never intact to begin with, you will miss out on something. No wonder they're killing each other. They have no sense of family or morality and a healthy sense of entitlement. The world owes them.

THAT is the root cause of this mess. The scary thing is, these people are oblivious to the fact that they are semi-willing participants in a system of economic slavery that is ten times worse than what blacks suffered hundreds of years ago. And they have their so-called "leaders," Progressive politicians, and themselves to thank for it.

You're stark raving mad

[God's Country]

These guns are out of control and our love [for] guns is out of control. Are they insane, or are we insane?"

What the fuck is she talking about?
Sure I name my guns, and refer to them as my children, and love each one of them for their individual personalities.....that's insane
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This is an American issue.

If this were still America there would be no issue.

[Nullifidian]

Actually the only way to eliminate gangs is to take away their MONEY.

The reason people join gangs is because they make money from being in a gang. What is a gangs number one source of income? Drugs. Why? because drugs are illegal and therefore the only way for people to obtain drugs is through illegal channels. Drug distribution like any other business, works better with a large cooperating network; a corporation if you will. Since such a business deals in an illegal product, their business itself is an illegal organization.

So how do you get rid of gangs? Legalizing drugs would make it available for sale in legal stores. No one would go to a gang or corner drug dealer to get drugs when they could get it legit from a store.

This would take away virtually all the income from gangs. They'd still exist, but they'd be reduced to crimes which yield much much less income, like protection rackets, theft, etc. Less income means less power and fewer members. Less bling to display makes them less attractive to young folks who currently look up to these scumbags.