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June 26th, 2010, 07:17 PM #61
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July 6th, 2010, 09:25 PM #62
Re: CONCLUSION!
Let's recap your history in my thread.
Don't shoot the rifle... right...
Sarcastic asshole comment.
The apparent lack of social skills continues...
You didn't leave a whole lot of "guess work" in how to interpret your posts. And since what I did could basically only happen one way, and even people who have never even looked at their gas block before understood what I meant... I just assumed it was more of the same "super fun comments from Jup06".
Anyway...
"Like" meaning reduces the orifice size LIKE a nitrous jet does/can. Because you can get them in different orifice sizes... Not that it looks the same.
Yes I removed the gas block from the barrel. I broke a tap off in the first one (bad tap) and I cut it off and installed a new Romanian gas block. Which also had the same ID gas hole. Which I then tapped (on the rifle) and installed a set screw with a small hole in it.
Which solved the problem, and then some.
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July 7th, 2010, 07:59 AM #63
Re: AK 47 Recoil echoing through stock?
Glad you got things worked out, I do have some questions though.
This post makes alot of sense to me since with a clogged hole, less gas will be available to cycle the action (and in turn absorb the felt recoil).
Same thing for this post, similar to an SKS that has the gas system valved off, you would simply feel more recoil because the rearward movement of the action is no longer dampening the gas forcing backwards from behind the bullet. (My take on things so far)
Now here is where I am getting confused, according to the 'plugged gas port' theory, by you installing the setscrew like you did, we "should" notice the felt recoil as being harder.......?
The more controlled ejection of your cases makes perfect sence given that the piston is being driven back less forcefully. But based on the logic of the 'plugged gas port' theory, you should be getting more recoil after you installed your restriction.
I guess the only thing that makes sence to me is that the difference in recoil between a "good" gas port, and a clogged/restricted one, is not even in the same scale (of felt recoil) as a gas port that is too large and making the carrier slap the back of the reciever excessively and throw cases 35ft. Like you were getting whacked twice on the same shot, once when the round touched off, and again when the carrier slammed the reciever.The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
Ayn Rand
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July 7th, 2010, 11:05 AM #64
Re: AK 47 Recoil echoing through stock?
YB, that's what I thought would be the case going in too. Evidently the bolt carrier exacerbates felt recoil far more than a round of 7.62x39mm ever could. So if it's coming back like a freight train it's going to influence what you feel far more than the round going off ever will. So here's the curve ball. The AMD was not slamming anything like the Romanian. But dropping the orifice size in it still lowered perceived recoil slightly. Not as much but slightly. So it seems when you slow that carrier down. There's room for improvement, right up until you run into reliability. At some point it won't cycle well. And that is the point where you've gone too far. Which is why I didn't do anything drastic.
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July 7th, 2010, 09:01 PM #65
Re: AK 47 Recoil echoing through stock?
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
Ayn Rand
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July 7th, 2010, 11:26 PM #66
Re: AK 47 Recoil echoing through stock?
Sure. I guess? Not really? I have SS ones I could drop in just as easy. I guess I'll keep an eye on it, but I did apply a high pressure copper lubricant to the threads before installing it. It's actually a high end bushing lubricant / anti-seize type paste I have that's similar to the stuff used in factory fresh Glocks.
Not just the average OTC copper anti-seize.
Plus I didn't install it monkey shit tight either. I really don't think it will be an issue at all really. I think the only way you could have an issue with this method is if you were really experimenting with how small of an orifice can you use and it still cycle. And then such a smaller hole would be more prone to plugging with carbon than a larger one.
Unlike some people though however... I clean my AK's. And that includes the gas tube and GB. Every time I shoot them. Insane concept I know...
I don't go crazy cleaning the bore, even though I do clean the rifle every time. Usually I just spray it with cleaner and snake it. And every FEW cleanings use a rod and brush... to keep from excellerating wear by too frequent cleaning regimen.
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July 10th, 2010, 06:25 AM #67
Re: CONCLUSION!
I guess I could have worded my responses in a more pleasant manner. My feelings are the same though. You basically:
1. tried to cut threads in the existing block to accept a reducer
2. the tap fouled and you had to put a new gas block on
-----right there and then, the new block in use didn't signify to you that there is a problem in your barrel?
Now:
Keep in mind, every secondary piece on these WASR-10's is made out of crap cast steel. The material won't hold a thread, let alone bluing.
The flow through the gas block will be limited to it's smallest diameter and/or it's sharpest curve.
A casting will not expand with applied heat nearly at the same rate as your chrome-lined barrel will. This is simple metallurgy.
I applaud you on your efforts and I think it's killer that you're trying to fix this, but as I stated before, I think there is something with the gas hole on your barrel.
Don't fix the problem....find the source of the problem
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July 10th, 2010, 10:58 AM #68
Re: CONCLUSION!
It was a cheap tap. It just snapped.
I never fired it with the new "used" has block on to determine.
It's not a wasr 10.
There are large sections of your post that seem barely in context. Regardless of whether it's the barrel gas hole, or gas block... Effectively reducing the orifice size fixes it all the same way. And it is fixed. So who cares how?
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