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    Default "slideless" semiauto pistols?

    Besides the ruger mk2, are there any other slideless semiauto pistol designs out there?

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    Default Re: "slideless" semiauto pistols?

    Some that come to mind quickly are the S&W 422, 622, 22A, 41; the High Standard .22's (Trophy, Citation, Supermatic, etc.); Colt Woodsman and probably others. These, like the Rugers, all have fixed barrels and what you grasp to work the action may or may not be considered a slide.

    I'd have to do some research but I'm sure there are some centerfires that are straight blowback actions with fixed barrels and no "slide". Some that come to mind are the MAC10 and 11, Tec 9, etc.
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    Default Re: "slideless" semiauto pistols?

    Some older designs also, Lathi, Luger, Mauser (Broomhandle).


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    Default Re: "slideless" semiauto pistols?

    Not to mention the Mateba revolver:

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    Default Re: "slideless" semiauto pistols?

    How about Kel Tec's new PMR-30 .22 Mag pisol...

    The PMR-30 is a light weight, full size pistol chambered for the flat-shooting .22Magnum cartridge (.22WMR). The PMR-30 operates on a unique hybrid
    blowback/locked-breech system. This operation system allows for the use of a wide variety of ammunition as it seamlessly adjusts between locked breach and blowback
    operation, depending on the pressure of the cartridge. It uses a double stack magazine of a new design that holds 30 rounds and fits completely in the grip of the pistol.
    Not sure if it has a traditional slide or what, but looks kind of interesting...


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    Default Re: "slideless" semiauto pistols?

    Kinda depends - as was mentioned - what you mean by "slide".
    The Ruger has a reciprocating bolt, enclosed in a receiver, that performs all the functions of a slide. Most of the others have what I would call a slide which is not enclosed as is the Ruger bolt. It may not be a slide like a 1911 or a Glock but I'd call the mechanism on a Buckmark, a High Standard, a Smith 41, a slide.
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    Default Re: "slideless" semiauto pistols?

    I am extremely, EXTREMELY excited about that kel-tec. I will most certainly be obtaining one.

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    Default Re: "slideless" semiauto pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by topsykretts View Post
    Besides the ruger mk2, are there any other slideless semiauto pistol designs out there?
    This is the only thing I dislike about the Ruger MK2 as a "beginner's pistol". It's operation and controls are unique enough, that you can cause some confusion as you attempt to transition the person towards a more traditionally designed semi-automatic pistol.

    On the other hand, it's useful for people to understand that there are a lot of variations in how guns are designed.

    I forget who it was, but I remember one conversation I had with someone at a group shoot last year. They were recounting how they were introducing a female family member towards firearms. Explaining the various types, and actions, and so-forth.

    Turned out all of the firearms they had on hand were of non-traditional designs. "So that one is the shotgun?" "Uh, actually that's a pump action rifle." "So that one is the rifle?" "Uh, actually that is a bolt action shotgun."
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