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    Quote Originally Posted by IronSight View Post
    Have fun when the emergency crews take 2 hours just to get you out of a crushed car.
    Have fun getting scrapped off the road when a car hits you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedaler73 View Post
    She spent the evening in the Lansdale Hospital ER.
    I'm so, so sorry to hear that... you sure they didn't amputate anything while you weren't looking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by exceltoexcel View Post
    A little common sense goes a long way here.

    1. The girl is in the car.
    And as already discussed, a window could be broken to remedy that problem.

    2. The girl is statistically much much safer than the parents standing outside the car.
    Okay, if you want to involve mathematics why don't you actually cite your statistics.

    3. The likelihood of his parked car in a relatively safe spot, since he wouldn't park it in an unsafe spot to change drivers, being hit by anyone is slim to none.
    Believe whatever you want, I'll take my chances outside of the car any day.

    4. You do what you want, he'll do what he thinks best.
    How about we all do what we think is best. If you want to argue math and statistics you better start citing sources, because all I've stated so far is my opinion. And in my opinion, I'm more likely to get seriously injured sitting in the car, since the car's a bit bigger of a "target" than I am, and a bit harder to move.

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    [sarcasm]Who the heck closes a car door when you know someone else is going to be jumping right back in anyway? The drivers door I can see depending on how close to traffic, but why the passenger door?[/sarcasm]


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    Quote Originally Posted by exceltoexcel View Post
    Have fun jumping over the jersey walls, scaling sound walls and bridges and walls of snow on 422/76/276/476 with a little girl.
    That does sound like fun!

    Play nice fellas
    Millions for defense, Not one cent for tribute!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisjames_71 View Post
    Why?? We stopped carrying them 3 yrs ago. Mainly due to liability reasons...
    Long time ago I had heard about a brand new Lincoln Continental that burned to the ground after the door lock button wire got shorted and set the door panel on fire.

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    Here are your stats..

    If you want more, use goggle.

    The UK Department for Transport publish road casualty statistics for each type of collision and vehicle through its Road Casualties Great Britain report.[35] These statistics show a ten to one ratio of in-vehicle fatalities between types of car. In most cars, occupants have a 2–8% chance of death in a two-car collision.
    When cars collide with pedestrians, there is high potential for serious injury. Pedestrian/motor vehicle accidents are a serious problem throughout the world. The United States has a particular problem with pedestrian deaths and injuries. About 5,000 pedestrians are killed and another 64,000 are injured in motor vehicle accidents every year in this country. <-- 12.8% of those struck

    It is common sense really, the human body has near zero chance against a 4,000 lb + vehicle while your SUV is made to keep you safe.



    Have a nice day

    Quote Originally Posted by IronSight View Post
    And as already discussed, a window could be broken to remedy that problem.



    Okay, if you want to involve mathematics why don't you actually cite your statistics.



    Believe whatever you want, I'll take my chances outside of the car any day.



    How about we all do what we think is best. If you want to argue math and statistics you better start citing sources, because all I've stated so far is my opinion. And in my opinion, I'm more likely to get seriously injured sitting in the car, since the car's a bit bigger of a "target" than I am, and a bit harder to move.
    Last edited by whoshisface; March 1st, 2010 at 11:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exceltoexcel View Post
    It is common sense really, the human body has near zero chance against a 4,000 lb + vehicle while your SUV is made to keep you safe.
    Well no shit, but that's assuming you get struck in the first place. I'll stay out of the car because I'd bet my ass I can avoid the idiot sliding into the shoulder.

    It's a simple question of surface area and movement. A car has a larger surface area and a parked one isn't going to be able to get out of the way of an oncoming car going 60 mph. A pedestrian, on the other hand, is much smaller, and can actually get out of the way of an oncoming car.

    Sure, if you actually get hit the chances are greater you'll be killed, but I believe being outside of the car decreases my chance of being hit.

    That's my opinion, one which your statistics fail to address.
    Last edited by IronSight; March 1st, 2010 at 11:49 PM.

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    You should walk then.. Those dangerous cars...

    http://www2.nsc.org/library/facts/carbreak.htm

    What To Do If Your Car Breaks Down on the Highway
    You are driving down the highway when suddenly you have car trouble. The National Safety Council suggests the following measures when your car breaks down or has a flat tire on the highway.

    At the first sign of car trouble, gently and smoothly take your foot off the accelerator. Do not brake hard or suddenly. Carefully work your vehicle toward the breakdown lane or the side of the road. If you are on an interstate, try to reach an exit. Signal your intentions to drivers behind you. If it is necessary to change lanes, watch your mirrors and the traffic around you closely.

    Once off the road, make your car visible. Put reflectorized triangles behind your vehicle to alert other drivers; use your emergency flashers. If it is dark, turn on the interior dome light.

    When you have a flat tire, be certain that you can change it safely without being close to traffic. If that is possible, change the tire as you normally would. Remember, safety must take precedence over your schedule or whatever other concerns you may have.

    However, when the car is beyond repair, it is best to get professional help. Do not try to flag down other vehicles. Raise your hood and tie something white to the radio antenna or hang it out a window so police officers or tow truck operators will know help is needed. Don't stand behind or next to your vehicle. If the car is in the roadway, stand away from the vehicle and wait for help to arrive.

    If your car is safely out of traffic, wait inside the vehicle with the doors locked. Use your cellular phone to call for help. If someone stops and offers to help, open the window slightly and ask them to call the police.

    Watch for a uniformed police officer or other emergency personnel. All interstate highways and major roads are patrolled regularly. Also, some highways have special "call-for-help" phones.

    It is inadvisable to walk on an interstate, especially during inclement weather. However, if you can reach a source of help on foot, without jeopardizing your physical or personal safety, try the direct approach by walking. Keep as far from traffic as possible and walk on the right side of the roadway. Never attempt to cross a multi-lane, high speed roadway.


    And the Iceing on the cake.. You might need this...

    http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...-the-road.html

    Quote Originally Posted by IronSight View Post
    Well no shit, but that's assuming you get struck in the first place. I'll stay out of the car because I'd bet my ass I can avoid the idiot sliding into the shoulder.

    It's a simple question of surface area and movement. A car has a larger surface area and a parked one isn't going to be able to get out of the way of an oncoming car going 60 mph. A pedestrian, on the other hand, is much smaller, and can actually get out of the way of an oncoming car.

    Sure, if you actually get hit the chances are greater you'll be killed, but I believe being outside of the car decreases my chance of being it.

    That's my opinion, one which your statistics fail to address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exceltoexcel View Post
    Don't stand behind or next to your vehicle. If the car is in the roadway, stand away from the vehicle and wait for help to arrive.
    That states the obvious, don't stand next to the car - funny that I wasn't proposing standing NEXT to the car, or immediately behind. It also doesn't mention anywhere that standing outside of your car, as far from the road as possible, would be a bad idea.

    And since when isn't the shoulder part of the "roadway." Think about that for a second.


    And the Iceing on the cake.. You might need this...

    http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...-the-road.html
    All that reiterates in regards to pedestrians is not to cross the highway on foot.

    Perhaps you need a lesson in basic English because you have shown that you are incompetent in even understanding what I've suggested I would do. If you want to call someone a dummy you should look in the damn mirror, then learn how to read.

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