Quote Originally Posted by headcase View Post
In reply to the comment that we don't have "stand your ground" yet, if we did, the basis of that doctrine says you have no duty to retreat before using deadly force, anywhere you have a right to be. Since both had a right to be there as far as the OP knew, they both had the right to defend themselves, had it come to that.

The back and forth fight about when the use of force is justified has not started in this thread yet, but before it does, how, exactly, would anyone here be able to tell the difference between someone who is real life trolling(fucking with you to get a rise out of you) and an actual deranged person, because the description the OP has given can be equally applied to either type of person.

Since it is not legal to kill someone just for being a dick, see the above translation.


If the guy in the OP's story wasn't a deranged serial killer, about to unleash death and destruction, and really was just a dick, and the OP even only pulled the gun, the guy is now the one who is being threatened unjustly and, should he have the means, could have justifiably used deadly force against the OP.

If he managed to kill you, his side of the story would be that you threatened him and he defended himself, and you, being dead, would have no rebuttal.

If the guy was just a dick, he would likely win any court case against him for using force to defend himself. If he turned out to be a deranged man, well, then while he would probably be convicted, you would still be just as dead

Maybe, instead of immediately summoning images of mass murderers and superimposing them on this guy, to the point of positioning your weapon for ease of access, and running through scenarios like, "if he starts getting loud and reaches for his pocket, I'm putting holes in him", maybe other options and scenarios like simply turning and walking away, or loudly saying, "HEY MAN! WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM? STOP BOTHERING ME!", calling attention to the two of you as you back away, should have been the first images running through a person's mind.

It would be sadly ironic, if both these people had learned when deadly force is justified from this forum, and both saw what they thought were the indications that it was about to be imminently necessary

How fucked up has it gotten out there, when this is someone's first reaction to the events relayed in the OP.


How was that fingers? Better?
yep....

remember, I'm just a stupid mechanic......