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    Exclamation England's Lost Freedoms Video

    This is an amazing documentary about the huge loss of rights and freedoms in the United Kingdom over recent decades.
    We all know how incredibly tyrannical the government has become in England. Therefore, we should learn from them and use the hostile government take over as a warning sign for our own country.

    "Taking Liberties"

    Part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HOfsS3Dlvc

    Part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zVxUW7wfT8

    Part 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwqN8p-UVCc

    Pt 4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3CZa7shrPg


    Pt 5
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-8iFb8LAhY


    Pt 6
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gduRBf4Xk7M

    Pt 7
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbivJL9PykM

    Pt 8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVX3PDc9lHs

    Pt 9
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trHIjQIpWrA

    Pt 10
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7O5_752rX0

    "One must be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves” ~ Machiavelli

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    Default Re: England's Lost Freedoms Video

    The General (National) Elections will be in a few months and the 3 main political parties are going to get hammered by the likes of the BNP and UKIP.

    Makes me cry to see Britain in the state it's in....

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    Default Re: England's Lost Freedoms Video

    What a buncha wanekuzz... Haha I don't even know what that means, been watching this show "The Inbetweeners", sitcom based in Britain I think...Back on topic, just shows how fear pandering and mass speculation lead down a dark, dark tunnel...

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    Sent to me re: your subject:

    You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers.

    At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it.

    In the darkness, you make out two shadows. One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire.

    The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside.

    As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.

    In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered.

    Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm.

    When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter.

    What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.

    "Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."

    The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them.

    Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die."

    The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk hero.

    Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win.

    The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects.

    After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars.

    A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted.

    When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.

    The judge sentences you to life in prison.

    This case really happened.

    On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term.

    How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ?

    It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns.

    Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.

    Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.

    The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.)

    Nine years later, at Dunblane , Scotland , Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school.

    For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearms still owned by private citizens.

    During the years in which the British government incrementally took away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released.

    Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands."

    All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars.

    When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities.

    Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens.

    How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed. Kind of like cars. Sound familiar?

    WAKE UP AMERICA ; THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION.

    "...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds..." - Samuel Adams

    You had better wake up, because your new president is going to do this very same thing over here if he can get it done. And there are stupid people in congress and on the street that will go right along with him.

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    Default Re: England's Lost Freedoms Video

    feel sorry for that guy, worst nightmare possible is to be sent to prison for life, for defending that life....he may as well have just used the shotgun on himself

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    Default Re: England's Lost Freedoms Video

    Why in the hell did these people fight against the Nazis in WW2 and the Soviets later if they were going to turn their country into this? What's the difference, really? They haven't stood up to anything or for anything other than making themselves just as bad off as they would have been enslaved by someone else.
    "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws--that's insane!" -- Penn Jillette

    "To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic." -- Ted Nugent

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    Default Re: England's Lost Freedoms Video

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellowfin View Post
    Why in the hell did these people fight against the Nazis in WW2 and the Soviets later if they were going to turn their country into this? What's the difference, really? They haven't stood up to anything or for anything other than making themselves just as bad off as they would have been enslaved by someone else.
    I think, In some ways the war never stop. Sure the fighting and bombs stop falling from the sky. The fight went underground, and is in back room deals and by word of mouth.
    History has shown us, another group starts up were another stop. Sure the ways and means might change but not the end result.
    The question is, Are they the same people with another mask? Or someone else?.
    Think about it, What would get everyones attention. Stating something out loud "Iran??", Or Saying one thing and doing another "Obama".

    Ether way, The end result is not good for anyone in the world.
    We have all seen someone fight the good fight an lose, Then with a bad taste in their mouth turn around and "in some way" Become what they were fighting in the first place.
    Boil the issue down to something as simple as say, I'm going to fix something. Okay, In the process It doesn't go well. You get mad and take a wake at it. Now its unfix able.
    Time, Use, Miss-use...etc..May have been the result in the item needing help or repair. In the process of repair the item is rendered unfix able.
    Which action cause the problem? before or after? Not understanding the root cause of the problem in the first place &/or Not Understanding the current state of the problem?
    Thank god, That only happen to me with a T.V. or VCR "Wow I'm showing my age". I try to learn from my mistakes, and apply that to the future and hope for the best.
    Thats my take on it.

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