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February 14th, 2010, 07:52 PM #1Banned
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Bill To Allow Concealed Firearms Passes Wyo. House
Did the obligatory search and didn't get a hit so I'm posting this story;
http://cbs4denver.com/wireapnewswy/B...2.1489346.html
Bill To Allow Concealed Firearms Passes Wyo. House
BEN NEARY, Associated Press Writer
CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) ― Wyoming residents could carry concealed guns without a state permit under a bill that advanced in the Legislature on Thursday with a 52-6 vote in the House of Representatives.
Under existing Wyoming law, people must obtain a state-issued permit to carry a concealed weapon. The state requires training and background checks and has issued more than 10,000 of the permits.
Forty-eight states allow people to carry concealed weapons and all but Alaska and Vermont require permits. Legislation is pending in Arizona that would allow people to carry concealed guns without a permit.
Rep. Lorraine Quarberg, R-Thermopolis, is the main sponsor of House Bill 113. It now heads to the House Judiciary Committee.
"It's a good idea for anybody in the United States, not just in Wyoming, because it basically solidifies and codifies and affirms our Second Amendment right, and allows us to protect ourselves," Quarberg said after the House vote.
If her bill becomes law, Quarberg said people would still have the option of getting a state-issued concealed weapons permit. She said that would allow them to carry concealed guns in other states that have reciprocity with Wyoming.
State permits also allow people to buy guns without going through federal background checks.
Sen. Cale Case, R-Lander, a co-sponsor of the bill, has supported several gun-rights bills in past sessions and is carrying a bill this year that would address reciprocity issues between Wyoming and other states over concealed gun permits.
"It comes down to a constitutional right," Case said. "The U.S. Constitution and the constitution for the state of Wyoming both guarantee the opportunity to keep and bear arms."
Rep. James W. Byrd, D-Cheyenne, was among those who voted against the bill.
"I think it's a terrible idea," Byrd said after the House vote. "First of all, it adds another level of danger to our peace officers who are the front line in the field. It ties their hands in determining whether or not an individual is lawfully carrying a weapon or not.
"In Wyoming, we have a special case where we have officers who are really out on their own, and don't have the luxury of having backup with them at all times, Byrd said.
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February 14th, 2010, 08:21 PM #2
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"I think it's a terrible idea," Byrd said after the House vote. "First of all, it adds another level of danger to our peace officers who are the front line in the field. It ties their hands in determining whether or not an individual is lawfully carrying a weapon or not.
Good for you, Wyoming!Oath Keeper, MMIX - Ad Infinitum
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February 14th, 2010, 08:23 PM #3
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Given the lopsidedness of the vote, this bill will probably sail through their Senate. Anyone know if their governor is likely to sign it?
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February 14th, 2010, 08:36 PM #4Banned
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Re: Bill To Allow Concealed Firearms Passes Wyo. House
I didn't think I would have to bold that for people to pick up on it....
Until 2 weeks ago, it was the head of the DHS, Janet Napolitano. It is now Jan Brewer who is pro 2A.
From the NRA website;
Looks like the Arizona Congress played this one smart!
I think it will sail through! I also like the model they want to adopt. From the OP;
"If her bill becomes law, Quarberg said people would still have the option of getting a state-issued concealed weapons permit. She said that would allow them to carry concealed guns in other states that have reciprocity with Wyoming."Last edited by buster2209; February 14th, 2010 at 09:18 PM.
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Re: Bill To Allow Concealed Firearms Passes Wyo. House
First of all, it adds another level of danger to our peace officers who are the front line in the field.
[quote]It ties their hands in determining whether or not an individual is lawfully carrying a weapon or not.[quote]
Both James Byrd and the police having an issue need to get the fuck over it. The underlying ideal there is nothing less than what is supposed to be one of the pillars of our 'great, free nation', the presumption of innocence. Yes, they might have a gun, because they have a right to have a gun and are probably supposed to always have a gun anyway as part of the militia!
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February 14th, 2010, 08:54 PM #6
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Until 2 weeks ago, it was the head of the DHS, Janet Napolitano. It is now Jan Brewer who is pro 2A.Last edited by General Geoff; February 14th, 2010 at 08:58 PM.
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February 14th, 2010, 09:12 PM #7
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From what I gathered by quickly googling, Wyoming Gov Dave Freudenthal is an old school Dem. In 2009 he signed two NRA backed bills into law, but they didn't have much to do with gun rights as they did with notifying defendants of the rights they would lose IF they pled guilty to certain crimes.
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/read.aspx?id=4504
In his bio on his web page it says he enjoys hunting and fishing. We all know that means nothing, but still.
Given the large favor the house has for the bill it would only be logical to think that this bill would pass no problem. Even if the gov doesn't sign it (or vetos it) couldn't a large majority vote override that? It would be HUGE for this country if this passes.
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Re: Bill To Allow Concealed Firearms Passes Wyo. House
My bad, I had Arizona on the brain from a previous thread
Again, from the NRA website;
http://www.nrapvf.org/News/Article.aspx?ID=216 (scroll about 2/3 of the way down the page);
WYOMING:
RE-ELECT DAVE FREUDENTHAL
As governor of Wyoming, Dave Freudenthal has proven to be a solid advocate of Second Amendment rights and our hunting heritage. He has taken the batfe to court over the state’s right to restore firearm rights, and has supported sportsmen’s rights against those who would use their tax dollars for non-hunting-related programs. Gun owners should give strong support to Gov. Freudenthal on Election Day.
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February 14th, 2010, 09:28 PM #9
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Excellent.
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Ten times the action, total hardcore.
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February 14th, 2010, 09:52 PM #10
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It looks like it wont be vetoed.Oath Keeper, MMIX - Ad Infinitum
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