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    Default man cleaning a handgun in York shot his 3-year-old

    http://www.wgal.com/news/22528752/detail.html

    YORK, Pa. -- A man cleaning a handgun in York accidentally shot his 3-year-old son in the back, according to police.

    It happened Wednesday afternoon in the family's home on the 500 block of Jessop Place.

    Police say the wound was not life threatening.

    Police also said the father, Reinaldo Vargas-Santana, is not expected to be charged.

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    Default Re: man cleaning a handgun in York shot his 3-year-old

    I've never seen a (non-muzzle loading) gun that can be effectively cleaned while in-battery, much less with a round in the chamber.

    Cleaning seems to mean "dicking around with," these days.
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    Default Re: man cleaning a handgun in York shot his 3-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by General Geoff View Post
    I've never seen a (non-muzzle loading) gun that can be effectively cleaned while in-battery, much less with a round in the chamber.

    Cleaning seems to mean "dicking around with," these days.
    ^^^Beat me to it^^^

    I don't know why people don't clear their weapons prior to "dicking around" with them.
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    Default Re: man cleaning a handgun in York shot his 3-year-old

    How do you clean a loaded gun? I never figured it out.

    The round in the chamber seems to block the cleaning rod, what should I do?

    fuck it, I'll just discharge it into my child.

    what a douche
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    Default Re: man cleaning a handgun in York shot his 3-year-old

    I got nothin'.

    How can you be so stupid?!

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    Default Re: man cleaning a handgun in York shot his 3-year-old

    "Cleaning accidents" have been the standard "stupid mistake" for decades. It's easy and difficult to disprove. "Why were you handling the gun?" "I was getting ready to clean it."

    It could have been the standard semi-auto mistake: rack the slide, drop the mag, boom!

    Ask any large police department how often that happened after they switched to semi-autos.

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    Default Re: man cleaning a handgun in York shot his 3-year-old

    Deyamn. Non-life threatening shot to the back of a child? Lucky kid. Stupid dad.
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    Default Re: man cleaning a handgun in York shot his 3-year-old

    He should be charged with negligence......stupidity is not accidental, its negligent. guns don't accidentally go off and shoot a child. if nothing else, it should have been pointed in a safe direction away from the child.
    Last edited by CHEMICAL; February 11th, 2010 at 04:19 PM.

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    Default Re: man cleaning a handgun in York shot his 3-year-old

    I may get smacked for this, but it's worth it.

    This guy needs to lose his guns and go to jail. There is NO excuse or circumstance that would have me handling a loaded weapon with kids around, especially toddlers. Holstered or locked or some other SAFE situation - but handling it????? NFW!!!!!

    I've said it before and say it again - CLEANING has become an excepted PC excuse for ND's and WE are allowing it to happen. Even thinking about handling that gun for a minute and this would not have happened. I don't know what he was doing but "dicking" with it, or showing off, or CUTTING CORNERS by not making the area safe, come to mind. This is WRONG and should be punished, period.

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    Default Re: man cleaning a handgun in York shot his 3-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by justashooter View Post
    http://www.wgal.com/news/22528752/detail.html

    YORK, Pa. -- A man cleaning a handgun in York accidentally shot his 3-year-old son in the back, according to police.

    It happened Wednesday afternoon in the family's home on the 500 block of Jessop Place.

    Police say the wound was not life threatening.

    Police also said the father, Reinaldo Vargas-Santana, is not expected to be charged.
    How can the father not be charged with anything? Owning firearms comes with great responsibility and this guy obviously should re-evaluate whether or not he should own any considering he doesn't exercise any common sense to make sure the firearm is UNLOADED!!!

    1. Treat the firearm as if it is always loaded
    2. Make sure the chamber is cleared
    3. Never put your finger on the trigger unless you're going to fire the firearm (except when dry firing in a safe direction)
    2. Never point the firearm at someone even if it is unloaded
    Last edited by RXM; February 11th, 2010 at 04:26 PM.

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