testing the expansion of hollow points

[SickRick]

i have 3 glocks 9mm 40 and 45 and i have several different jhp's for them i would like to perform a test to see which one opens up better... how would i go about doing this??? fill a 5 gallon bucket up with sand and shoot into it or have a garbage can filled with water and shoot into it... please any help would be great


thanks Rick

[jahwarrior72]

i often wondered about doing this, too. i'm assuming you've got someplace outside to do this?

i just noticed you're in NJ; are you allowed to discharge a gun on private property, or do you have to go a range?

[SickRick]

i would be doing this out side behind my garage people by me would think it the kid behind me playing with his fireworks again.. where i live it isnt a quiet neighborhood.. one shot every so often wouldnt bother any one

[cigarmanpa]

aren't hollow points illegal in the peoples republic of new jersey?

[SickRick]

they can be used at the range and for home defense thats it...plus i carry them when i come to the free state of PA i have a utah CCW permit.. plus i am goin to the police academy here in nj soo and want to see which one i am goin to trust my life with....

[Ricochet]

The best way to do this, and the most realistic IMHO is as follows.

Buy some red ceramic flower pots at Lowed or Wal mart. They MUST be ceramic! Like these:


Get the ones that would fit a volley ball in them (I cant remember the size classification)

Then, go buy some molding clay from the local arts & crafts store.

Then take grey colored the art clay and fill each clay pot with clay.

The above will give you a realistic report of how your ammo will react to a real world scenario.

The ceramic mimics bone and the clay will act like teh flesh behind the bone flesh.

Everyone always used ballistic gelatin for HP tests. But its is unrealistic.
Why?

Because the zombie's anatomy is very bony.
For instance, the center of mass is covered by the chest plate and ribs.

The head is covered by skull.

And if you really want to take this test to extreme realism, take an old pair of jeans and put it over the ceramic flower pot with clay inside.

This will mimic a "zombie" wearing clothes.

[jahwarrior72]

i'm detecting imminent FAIL in this thread....

[SickRick]

listen trying to do this as cheap as possible i have a 55 gallon garbage can right now filled with rain water and my father in law has a bunch of 5 gallon buckets with sand in them... i'm not looking to start a garden.. lol or make a huge mess in my yard..


Rick

[Ricochet]

listen trying to do this as cheap as possible i have a 55 gallon garbage can right now filled with rain water and my father in law has a bunch of 5 gallon buckets with sand in them... i'm not looking to start a garden.. lol or make a huge mess in my yard..


Rick

Well, if you want to just see how HP's mushroom, then water will work.

But I thought you were trying to test the actual effectiveness in a real world scenario.

[SickRick]

ok how much water will work dont want to shoot it and it goes through the bottom of the garbage can.. more insight on shooting into water