Radnor Township Considering Mandatory Reporting of Lost or Stolen Firearms Could be C

[Kb! Bob]

[QUOTE=son of the revolution;1075347]IMPORTANT !!!! Nancy Lamason of Radnor and CeaseFire PA Vice President...................... What connections, if any does Ms Lamason have to Radnor Commissioners ? Potential conflict of interest ?

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http://www.radnordemocrats.org/index...0412223d0a948b


#18 On a board with 2 comissioners? That all I'm coming up with so far.


ETA: Jim Higgins, ex-Radnor comissioner, is now the CeaseFirePA Treasurer? Am I getting any thing good yet?
http://www.ceasefirepa.org/node/13

[JCWohlschlag]

IMPORTANT: Please help!!!


I have made email contact with several comissioners. They state that:

"The attorneys who presented information to us at the last meeting indicated that the law has already been enacted in what I recall to be a dozen or so municipalities and in Philadelphia and that it has not yet been challenged because in their opinion it is consistent with state law. Do you know of specific challenges?"


SO, arm me with info folks, I got my foot in the door. Help me craft my response! Locally if possible, PA examples for sure. Thanks!

Would Attorney General Tom Corbett’s opinion on the matter be credible enough for them?

[Kb! Bob]

Would Attorney General Tom Corbett’s opinion on the matter be credible enough for them?

So let me ask this: Why, if the Atty Gen. himself thinks it is not appropriate, does it continue to pass and stand, uchallenged, in the face of the law and the NRA?

[son of the revolution]

[QUOTE=Kb! Bob;1075368]

IMPORTANT !!!! Nancy Lamason of Radnor and CeaseFire PA Vice President...................... What connections, if any does Ms Lamason have to Radnor Commissioners ? Potential conflict of interest ?

QUOTE]


http://www.radnordemocrats.org/index...0412223d0a948b


#18 On a board with 2 comissioners? That all I'm coming up with so far.


ETA: Jim Higgins, ex-Radnor comissioner, is now the CeaseFirePA Treasurer? Am I getting any thing good yet?
http://www.ceasefirepa.org/node/13

Ok Bob , I want you to follow this link http://forum.pafoa.org/news-123/8757...ed-felons.html read the article in the first post, paying particular attention to the bolded parts. Then print out a copy and distribute it to your council people , including the pointed question of how exactly is L&S going to solve anything, when Philly has it and publicly ADMITS to plea bargaining away a MINIMUM MANDATORY straw buyer felony ? Ask why CeaseFire PA is stunningly and noticeably SILENT on this travesty, when they claim to only be about supporting " common sense gun regulations " . Where exactly is the "common sense " in the Philly DA's Office pleading away a SLAM DUNK case ? Then take several copies of the article to the meeting, hand them out to anyone that will take one, and ask the same exact questions in public !

Why do Cities refuse to Prosecute and sentence blatant straw buyers to the MINIMUM MANDATORY sentence provided for by LAW, and continue to entertain ILLEGAL Anti Gun Ordinances that only target law abiding citizens ?

[Kb! Bob]

[QUOTE=son of the revolution;1075412]

Ok Bob , I want you to follow this link http://forum.pafoa.org/reputation.php?p=1074689 read the article in the first post, paying particular attention to the bolded parts. Then print out a copy and distribute it to your council people , including the pointed question of how exactly is L&S going to solve anything, when Philly has it and publicly ADMITS to plea bargaining away a MINIMUM MANDATORY straw buyer felony ? Ask why CeaseFire PA is stunningly and noticeably SILENT on this travesty, when they claim to only be about supporting " common sense gun regulations " . Where exactly is the "common sense " in the Philly DA's Office pleading away a SLAM DUNK case ? Then take several copies of the article to the meeting, hand them out to anyone that will take one, and ask the same exact questions in public !

Why do Cities refuse to Prosecute and sentence blatant straw buyers to the MINIMUM MANDATORY sentence provided for by LAW, and continue to entertain ILLEGAL Anti Gun Ordinances that only target law abiding citizens ?

Linked to "REP" system.

[son of the revolution]

[QUOTE=Kb! Bob;1075423]

Linked to "REP" system.

Uh oh , fat fingered that one I guess, gimme a minute to edit

Try this one http://forum.pafoa.org/news-123/8757...ed-felons.html fixed it in my original post as well. Good catch !

[Kb! Bob]

Dear Commissioner X:

I am writing to express my opposition to the legislation/ordinance being proposed

in Radnor Township to mandate the reporting of lost or stolen firearms.

This proposal violates Pennsylvania's State Preemption laws and turns

law abiding gun owners, who may have already been victimized by theft,

into criminals. I urge you to reject the support/pressure of CeasefirePA and

other special interests and REJECT this new legislation/ordinance.

Sincerely,

Kb! Bob

Address



RESPONSE #1
The attorneys who presented information to us at the last meeting indicated that the law has already been enacted in what I recall to be a dozen or so municipalities and in Philadelphia and that it has not yet been challenged because in their opinion it is consistent with state law. Do you know of specific challenges?


RESPONSE #2
Thank you for your email. It is my understanding that the PA Laws regarding firearms do not apply in this case BUT our solicitor will "rule" on that issue. I have been a gun owner since I was a teen and I have taught both my wife and daughter to shoot. That being said, I think that this ordinance makes tremendous sense and may actually protect us if our guns were stolen and used in a crime.
Thanks for your feedback

[Bill Ricca]

You can expect this to spread to many municipalities. We need to sue a city or two to get this stuff stopped.

Please help support the law suit.

http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...ease-help.html

[son of the revolution]

Dear Commissioner X:

I am writing to express my opposition to the legislation/ordinance being proposed

in Radnor Township to mandate the reporting of lost or stolen firearms.

This proposal violates Pennsylvania's State Preemption laws and turns

law abiding gun owners, who may have already been victimized by theft,

into criminals. I urge you to reject the support/pressure of CeasefirePA and

other special interests and REJECT this new legislation/ordinance.

Sincerely,

Kb! Bob

Address



RESPONSE #1
The attorneys who presented information to us at the last meeting indicated that the law has already been enacted in what I recall to be a dozen or so municipalities and in Philadelphia and that it has not yet been challenged because in their opinion it is consistent with state law. Do you know of specific challenges?


RESPONSE #2
Thank you for your email. It is my understanding that the PA Laws regarding firearms do not apply in this case BUT our solicitor will "rule" on that issue. I have been a gun owner since I was a teen and I have taught both my wife and daughter to shoot. That being said, I think that this ordinance makes tremendous sense and may actually protect us if our guns were stolen and used in a crime.
Thanks for your feedback

Regarding response #2 . Ask that " gun owner " to explain in DETAIL , exactly how it will help ? If the ordinance, as all of them do, imposes a requirement to report the theft of the firearm AFTER the owner realizes it, what if the owner doesnt realize it for several days, a week , a month long over seas work assignment ? Since the gun hasnt been discovered to be stolen yet , it wont be in the system as such , and even if its recovered at an actual crime, it wont turn up as a stolen weapon because it hasnt been reported, because the owner doesnt yet know it was stolen, so theres nothing to report!

How EXACTLY is it going to " protect us " and from what ?

Why in this officials mind is it ok to support blantantly ILLEGAL regulations, in violation of their sworn oath of Office to uphold, protect and defend the Constitution of PA and the US ? What kind of example are they setting as " leaders of their Communities " by behaving in such a manner ? That its ok to make a promise/swear an oath and then turn around and break it because you feel you have a good reason to ?

If thats the case , then why should any citizen ever trust or believe any other "promise " that official utters ?


The bottom line is CeaseFire PA has publicly pitched this as a "common sense " measure to go after straw buyers , who get away with their crimes by reporting the gun stolen after its recovered at a crime and the police come looking for them. If CeaseFire PA is so concerned about effective measures to combat straw buyers , while leaving " law abiding gun owners alone " then WHY have they been SILENT about the City of Philadelphia DA's Office plea bargaining away a MINIMUM MANDATORY ten year sentence for a confessed straw buyer and letting her skate on house arrest and probation?

The Philly DA's Office just sent a BIG message to straw buyers," dont worry about it , we arent serious about punishing you and even if we do , you wont actually go to jail for your crimes , even if you confess. We'll let you off with a stay at home sentence and some probation, even though you committed mutiple Federal Felonies "

Now who in their right mind would be deterred from something if the Prosecutors Office effectively told them " go ahead " !

Would a criminal be deterred from robbing a store if the owner hung out a message saying " We wont file charges if you commit a crime against us " ????

[Kb! Bob]

You can expect this to spread to many municipalities. We need to sue a city or two to get this stuff stopped.

Please help support the law suit.

http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...ease-help.html

Link sent to Solicitor.They are now "aware".