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    Default Re: Head's UP ! B.Miller and Heeding God's Call planning new gun shop protests !

    Quote Originally Posted by whenheavenfell View Post
    ...what are you talking about?

    what "giving in?"

    pleading guilty?

    it's not like they got sick of the pressure and closed the shop.




    edit: and generally speaking, blanket "us or them" mindsets are stupid. just because someone owns/sells/etc a gun doesn't mean they're an ally. or a decent human. or not scum. there were plenty of very valid reasons not to support colosimo's. they're not trumped just because some morons protest against them.

    the issue is/was different than the shop
    You seem to have a habit of putting words in people's mouths ( or posts as it were ). I never said a thing about supporting " bad shops ". Never have and never will. You dont want to help stop these liars that are using religion, just like Islamic Extremeists to force their views on the rest of us ? Fine , dont. But sooner or later your going to regret not taking the fight to them, maybe someday they'll get around to a shop or an issue you do care about, maybe it wont be to late.

    But as long as these morons continue to spout their lies unchecked and fawned over by the media , they will only continue to grow in power.
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    Default Re: Head's UP ! B.Miller and Heeding God's Call planning new gun shop protests !

    Has anyone visited the facebook page? Not exactly a whole lot going on over there, only 91 fans.

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    Default Re: Head's UP ! B.Miller and Heeding God's Call planning new gun shop protests !

    sor,

    i never said you did. i was referring to adymond's post. just as my first post was responding to half of the thread.

    you shouldn't assume that everything said is a direct reply to you.


    but ironically, you evaded the part that was directed to you. how does pleading guilty and losing the ffl equate to giving in to protesters?



    edit: (to sor) what words have i put in anyone's mouth? and because i think/thought colosimo's sucked, that means/implies i'm ok with sitting idly/not stopping them/etc? please. isn't that the same bs you just accused me of?
    Last edited by whenheavenfell; January 26th, 2010 at 06:51 PM.

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    Default Re: Head's UP ! B.Miller and Heeding God's Call planning new gun shop protests !

    Quote Originally Posted by whenheavenfell View Post
    sor,

    i never said you did. i was referring to adymond's post. just as i referred to someone else's post, previously.

    you shouldn't assume that everything said is a direct reply to you.


    but ironically, you evaded the part that was directed to you. how does pleading guilty and losing the ffl equate to giving in to protesters?
    I didnt avoid anything anymore then you did when I asked you if you actually believed it was all a big coincedence that Colosimo's finally caved in and gave up right around the time Miller's group was hounding them, when he had previously beaten the same allegations for YEARS before Miller even became a factor.

    Ok, so the guy allegedly had some paperwork mistakes. Its an old tried and true tactic of the ATF to use the smallest of bookkeeping errors and blow them up into a major issue in order to coerce or outright yank the license of a particularly " unpopular " gun dealer. If Colosimo's was really the blight on society and huge supplier of illegal guns to the criminal underworld that Miller and his media acolytes made him out to be, something tells me the ATF would have pursued him a lot more vigorously then just accepting a minor guilty plea to a misdemeanor and accepting a voluntary surrender of his dealer's license.
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    Default Re: Head's UP ! B.Miller and Heeding God's Call planning new gun shop protests !

    not exactly. i think my "what are you talking about?" was an adequate response/inquiry to your post, especially when followed up with asking if you're referring to pleading guilty.

    but that's largely semantics.

    at any rate, they certainly didn't stop selling guns just because of the protesters, and there were clearly plenty of other issues.

    you can speculate that the charges were due to the protests, i can simply not try to speculate.

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    Default Re: Head's UP ! B.Miller and Heeding God's Call planning new gun shop protests !

    Quote Originally Posted by whenheavenfell View Post
    not exactly. i think my "what are you talking about?" was an adequate response/inquiry to your post, especially when followed up with asking if you're referring to pleading guilty.

    but that's largely semantics.

    at any rate, they certainly didn't stop selling guns just because of the protesters, and there were clearly plenty of other issues.

    you can speculate that the charges were due to the protests, i can simply not try to speculate.
    You call it speculation , I call it long experience with how the Anti's and the ATF operates.
    Si vis pacem, para bellum
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    Default Re: Head's UP ! B.Miller and Heeding God's Call planning new gun shop protests !

    I hate it when these "semantics" posts drag good threads way off topic....

    Support the GOOD SHOPS against these demostrations and NOT WORRY ABOUT COLISIMOS! or don't post in here about whether they went under due to the demonstrations or not....

    These groups want to CLOSE YOUR GUN SHOPS.

    Support it.

    OR Don't support it - post once if you feel the need not to support it, but then please don't keep posting about little stuff back and forth.
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    Default Re: Head's UP ! B.Miller and Heeding God's Call planning new gun shop protests !

    i think the point is being lost here. this isn't about why one bad shop was shut down, it's about how a bunch of analcunts are trying to shut down good shops, for no other reason than they have teensy weensy wang-dang-doodles. stop derailing the freaking thread, please.

    i will say this: i'd rather stand behind a shitty shop than let Bryan "Fuckmouth" Miller get his way.

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    Default Re: Head's UP ! B.Miller and Heeding God's Call planning new gun shop protests !

    Quote Originally Posted by jahwarrior72 View Post
    i think the point is being lost here. this isn't about why one bad shop was shut down, it's about how a bunch of analcunts are trying to shut down good shops, for no other reason than they have teensy weensy wang-dang-doodles. stop derailing the freaking thread, please.

    i will say this: i'd rather stand behind a shitty shop than let Bryan "Fuckmouth" Miller get his way.
    We have to wait till SotR is in freedom, before we build a wall to keep the Jerseyites out....

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    Default Re: Head's UP ! B.Miller and Heeding God's Call planning new gun shop protests !

    I became a fan of Heeding Assholes Call. Topic creation is still open.
    I'm too rage filled to post anything yet.

    267-519-5302 is the phone number listed. If you're interested in calling an Asshole, dial away.
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    let them eventually bring the FBI to kill my wife and son over fucking chickens....

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