Scheduled Instant Check Outage 9/2 - 9/6

**Seneca Arms Co. Inc.** · August 13th, 2007, 01:09 PM

I just got my letter from the Pa State Police saying that they will be working on the Instant Check System and it will be DOWN Sept 2nd thru Sept 6th. Knowing how the PA NICS system works I will be really surprised if they have it running by the 8th or 9th.

This is not only a pain in the ass for all PA gunowners who would like to buy or transfer a firearm during that week, but it is a FINANCIAL hardship for those of us who make our living in this business. I pay my bills and feed my kids with the money I generate in my store. When the store is closed I make ZERO.

We(dealers in PA) have no recourse and we will simply have to eat the loss.

This is just another small reason why the gun biz is not the greatest business to enter.

** Word to the wise for all you young guys that think owning a gun shop would be great ** DON'T DO IT!!!!! Go to school and get good grades, or learn a trade. This business will kill your love of firearms and make you bitter at the whole system.

If I could turn the hands of time back to when I walked out of Temple U with my degree, I would not have followed the same path again.

In closing I would like to thank the PSP for taking a weeks pay out of my pocket.

**GRoPA** · August 13th, 2007, 06:35 PM

I got a letter today from the PSP. From Sept 02 thru Sept 06 the state Instant Check system will be down for the implementation of a new database. All checks during this time will be put on an "Undetermined" or "Denied" status.

THERE WILL BE NO APPROVAL NUMBERS ISSUED DURING THIS TIME.

I just wanted to make you guys aware of this. It's not your dealers fault if you walk in his store during those dates. Don't go whining to him about it, he's not happy about it either.

The letter says till the 6th but I would expect a few days of "Working the bugs out" after that date.

Again, this is just an FYI to you guys. You may now proceed with the rest of your lives.

**XD45** · August 13th, 2007, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by GUNRUNNERS OF PA

I got a letter today from the PSP. From Sept 02 thru Sept 06 the state Instant Check system will be down for the implementation of a new database. All checks during this time will be put on an "Undetermined" or "Denied" status.

THERE WILL BE NO APPROVAL NUMBERS ISSUED DURING THIS TIME.

I just wanted to make you guys aware of this. It's not your dealers fault if you walk in his store during those dates. Don't go whining to him about it, he's not happy about it either.

The letter says till the 6th but I would expect a few days of "Working the bugs out" after that date.

Again, this is just an FYI to you guys. You may now proceed with the rest of your lives.

thanks for that info gropa..

**Kenshin** · August 13th, 2007, 07:05 PM

Damn and thats just before the gun show in Harrisburg... Talk about all the guys who wanna buy stuff there and it all being down....

**Lougotzz** · August 13th, 2007, 08:41 PM

This shows you why back ground check are no good. In NY the NICS was down douring 911( i assume the whole country) and only people with pistol permits were able to buy guns. They were exempt from NICS.

This can be used agains us gun owners in certain situations. Say civil unreast they stop all NICS checks and now no guns. The politicians wont tell you this. I think it is unconstitutional from the start but during the down time it is an absolute denial of the second A.

Just my thoughts.

**knight0334** · August 13th, 2007, 11:01 PM

Hopefully the new database will fix my Instant Check calls from going to operator. I had prior denial, but received a reversal letter after clearing "something" up. You'd think that the flag that keeps popping up would have an automated "clear to go" once a reversal letter has been issued for that item.