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    Default 7 Things Cops Should Never Say To Anyone

    7. “HEY YOU! COME HERE!”

    Consider, you are on patrol and you see someone suspicious you want to talk with, so you most naturally say, “Hey you! Come here!” Verbal Judo teaches that “natural language is disastrous!” and this provides a wonderful example. You have just warned the subject that he is in trouble. “Come here” means to you, “Over here, you are under my authority.” But to the subject it means, “Go away-quickly!” The words are not tactical for they have provided a warning and possibly precipitated a chase that would not have been necessary had you, instead, walked casually in his direction and once close said, “Excuse me. Could I chat with momentarily?” Notice this question is polite, professional, and calm.

    Also notice, you have gotten in close, in his “space” though not his “face,” and now you are too close for him to back off, giving you a ration of verbal trouble, as could have easily been the case with the “Hey you! Come here!” opening.

    The ancient samurai knew never to let an opponent pick the place of battle for then the sun would always be in your eyes! “Come here” is loose, lazy, and ineffective language. Easy, but wrong. Tactically, “May I chat with you” is far better, for not only have you picked the place to talk, but anything the subject says, other than yes or no-the question you asked-provides you with intelligence regarding his emotional and/or mental state. Let him start any ‘dance’ of resistance.

    Point: Polite civility can be a weapon of immense power!

    6. “CALM DOWN!”

    Consider this verbal blunder. You approach some angry folks and you most naturally say, “Hey, calm down!” This command never works, so why do we always use it? Because it flows naturally from our lips!

    What’s wrong with it? One, the phrase is a criticism of their behavior and suggests that they have no legitimate right to be upset! Hence, rather than reassuring them that things will improve, which should be your goal, you have created a new problem! Not only is there the matter they were upset about to begin with, but now they need to defend their reaction to you! Double the trouble!

    Better, put on a calming face and demeanor-in Verbal Judo we say, ‘Chameleon up’-look the person in the eye and say, gently, “It’s going to be all right. Talk to me. What’s the matter?” The phrase "What’s the matter?’ softens the person up to talk and calm down; where ‘Calm down’ hardens the resistance. The choice is yours!

    5. “I’M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU AGAIN!”

    We teach in Verbal Judo that ‘repetition is weakness on the streets!’ and you and I both know that this phrase is almost always a lie. You will say it again, and possibly again and again!

    Parents do it all the time with their kids, and street cops do it with resistant subjects, all the time! The phrase is, of course, a threat, and voicing it leaves you only one viable option-action! If you are not prepared to act, or cannot at the time, you lose credibility, and with the loss of creditability comes the loss of power and safety!

    Even if you are prepared to act, you have warned the subject that you are about to do so and forewarned is forearmed! Another tactical blunder! Like the rattlesnake you have made noise, and noise can get you hurt or killed. Better to be more like the cobra and strike when least suspected!

    If you want to stress the seriousness of your words, say something like, ‘Listen, it’s important that you get this point, so pay close attention to what I’m about to tell you.’

    If you have used Verbal Judo’s Five Steps of Persuasion you know that we act after asking our “nicest, most polite question,”

    “Sir, is there anything I could say that would get you to do A, B and C? I’d like to think so?”

    If the answer is NO, we act while the subject is still talking! We do not telegraph our actions nor threaten people, but we do act when verbal persuasion fails.

    4. “BE MORE REASONABLE!”

    Telling people “be more reasonable” has many of the same problems as “Calm Down!” Everyone thinks h/she is plenty reasonable given the present circumstances! I never have had anyone run up to me and say, “Hey, I know I’m stupid and wrong, but here’s what I think!” although I have been confronted by stupid and wrong people! You only invite conflict when you tell people to “be more reasonable!”

    Instead, make people more reasonable by the way in which you handle them, tactically! Use the language of reassurance-“Let me see if I understand your position,” and then paraphrase-another VJ tactic!-back to them their meaning, as you see it, in your words! Using your words will calm them and make them more reasonable because your words will (or better be!) more professional and less emotional.

    This approach absorbs the other’s tension and makes him feel your support. Now you can help them think more logically and less destructively, without making the insulting charge implied in your statement, “Be more reasonable!”

    Again, tactics over natural reaction!

    3. “BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE RULES” (or “THAT’S THE LAW!”)

    If ever there was a phrase that irritates people and makes you look weak, this is it!

    If you are enforcing rules/laws that exist for good reason, don’t be afraid to explain that! Your audience may not agree with or like it, but at least they have been honored with an explanation. Note, a true sign of REspect is to tell people why, and telling people why generates voluntary compliance. Indeed, we know that at least 70% of resistant or difficult people will do what you want them to do if you will just tell them why!

    When you tell people why, you establish a ground to stand on, and one for them as well! Your declaration of why defines the limits of the issue at hand, defines your real authority, but also gives the other good reason for complying, not just because you said so! Tactically, telling people why gets your ego out of it and put in its place a solid, professional reason for action.

    Even at home, if all you can do is repeat, “those are the rules,” you sound and look weak because you apparently cannot support your order/request with logic or good reason. Indeed, if you can put rules or policies into context and explain how the rules or policies are good for everyone, you not only help people understand, you help them save face. Hence, you are much more likely to generate voluntary compliance, which is your goal!

    2. “WHAT’S YOUR PROBLEM?”

    This snotty, useless phrase turns the problem back on the person needing assistance. It signals this is a “you-versus-me” battle rather than an “us” discussion. The typical reaction is, “It’s not my problem. You’re the problem!”

    The problem with the word problem is that it makes people feel deficient or even helpless. It can even transport people back to grade school where they felt misunderstood and underrated. Nobody likes to admit h/she has a problem. That’s a weakness! When asked, “what’s your problem?” the other already feels a failure. So the immediate natural reaction is, “I don’t have one, you do!” which is a reaction that now hides a real need for help.

    Substitute tactical phrases designed to soften and open someone up, like “What’s the matter?”, “How can I help?”, or “I can see you’re upset, let me suggest . . . .”

    Remember, as an officer of peace, it is your business to find ways to gather good intel and to help those in need, not to pass judgments.

    1. “WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO ABOUT IT?”

    A great cop-out (no pun…)! This pseudo-question, always accompanied by sarcasm, is clearly an evasion of responsibility and a clear sign of a lack of creativity! The phrase really reveals the speaker’s exasperation and lack of knowledge. Often heard from untrained sales clerks and young officers tasked with figuring out how to help someone when the rules are not clear.

    When you say, “What do you want me to do about it?” you can count on two problems: the one you started with and the one you just created by appearing to duck responsibility.

    Instead, tactically offer to help sort out the problem and work toward a solution. If it truly is not in your area of responsibility, point the subject to the right department or persons that might be able to solve the problem.

    If you are unable or unqualified to assist and you haven’t a clue as to how to help the person, apologize. Such an apology almost always gains you an ally, one you may need at same later date. Beat cops need to remember it is important to “develop a pair of eyes” (contacts) every time they interact with the public. Had the officer said to the complainant, for example, “I’m sorry, I really do not know what to recommend, but I wish I did, I’d like to help you,” and coupled that statement with a concerned tone of voice and a face of concern, he would have gone a long way toward making that person more malleable and compliant for the police later down the road.

    Remember, insult strengthens resistance and shuts the eyes. Civility weakens resistance and opens the eyes!

    It’s tactical to be nice!

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    Default Re: 7 Things Cops Should Never Say To Anyone

    Good post. Anyone who watches Cops on tv hears these 7 used constantly by officers.

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    Wink Re: 7 Things Cops Should Never Say To Anyone

    Well..what should we not to say to a cop?

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    Default Re: 7 Things Cops Should Never Say To Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by Fred762 View Post
    Well..what should we not to say to a cop?
    1. I can't reach my license unless you hold my beer.

    2. Sorry officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in.

    3. Aren't you the guy-from the Village People band?

    4. Hey, you must have been doing 125 to keep up with me. Good job.

    5. I though you had to be in relatively good physical shape to be a police officer.

    6. I was going to be a cop, but I decided to finish high school instead.

    7. Bad cop, no donut.

    8. You're not going to check the trunk are you?

    9. Gee, that gut sure doesn't inspire confidence.

    10. Didn't I see you get your butt kicked on COPS?

    11. Wow, you look just like the guy in the picture on my girlfriends night stand.

    12. Is it true that people become cops because they're too dumb to work at McDonalds?

    13. I pay your salary.

    14. So uh, you on the take or what?

    15. Gee officer, that's terrific. The last officer only gave me a warning.

    16. Do you know why you pulled me over? Okay, just so one of us knows.

    17. I was trying to keep up with traffic. Yes, I know there are no other cars around, that's how far ahead they are.

    18. What do you mean, "Have I been drinking?" YOU'RE the trained specialist.

    19. Well officer, when I reached down to pick up my bag of crack, my gun fell off of my lap and got lodged between the brake and the gas pedal, forcing me to speed out of control.

    20. Hey, is that a 9mm? That's nothing compared to this 44 magnum.

    21. Hey, can you give me another one of those full cavity searches?

    22. No, YOU assume the position.

    23. I'm surprised you stopped me, Dunkin Donuts is having a 3 for 1 special!

    24. If I bend over, will I still get a ticket?

    25. No, offi, offic, lucifer...I'm not as think you are drunk I am. I swear to dog.

    26. No, I don't know how fast I was going. The little needle stops at 110mph.

    27. Back off Barney, I've got a piece.

    28. But officer, I've got 2 different drivers licenses from 2 different states! Pick ONE!

    29. I know I was weaving, but I was trying to hit all the little green men!

    30. On the way to the station, let's get a six pack, oh and don't forget the cigs.

    31. Come on, write the stupid ticket, the bars close in 20 minutes!

    32. Hey, wasn't your daughter a porn queen?

    33. How long is this going to take? Your wife is expecting me.

    34. So that's what those yellow flashing lights in the school zone mean?

    35. What do you use those rubber gloves for anyway?
    III%

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    19. Well officer, when I reached down to pick up my bag of crack, my gun fell off of my lap and got lodged between the brake and the gas pedal, forcing me to speed out of control.

    My personal favorite.. haha
    III%

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    Default Re: 7 Things Cops Should Never Say To Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveM55 View Post
    If you are enforcing rules/laws that exist for good reason...
    but what about the other 75% of rules/laws...

    (good post, btw.)
    F*S=k

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    Default Re: 7 Things Cops Should Never Say To Anyone

    Where I grew up in Michigan, many of the local Fire departments held an annual ball to raise money. These were sold at all the typical places and usually twice as many tickets were sold than people attended.

    A lady friend of a friend was pulled over on the highway by state police for speeding. When the officer approached her car, she asked, "Are you going to sell me tickets to the ball?"

    The officer responded, "Ma'am State police officers don't have balls." After a brief pause, he returned to his car and left.

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    Default Re: 7 Things Cops Should Never Say To Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by Fred762 View Post
    Well..what should we not to say to a cop?
    If you are being investigated... Nothing at all.
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    you won't, I will not sit with my thumb up my bum and complain, because you will.
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    Default Re: 7 Things Cops Should Never Say To Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by NikeBauer21 View Post
    19. Well officer, when I reached down to pick up my bag of crack, my gun fell off of my lap and got lodged between the brake and the gas pedal, forcing me to speed out of control.

    My personal favorite.. haha
    36. "I have no idea how fast I was going... My speedometer stops at 150mph" ~ quote - knight0334 to Pinellas Co. Deputy 1993



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    Default Re: 7 Things Cops Should Never Say To Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohaa Player View Post
    Better link:
    http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/357...ht=talk+police

    + an existing open discussion on the topic for those interested.
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    danbus wrote: ...Like I said before, I open carry because you don't, I fight for all my rights because
    you won't, I will not sit with my thumb up my bum and complain, because you will.
    Remember Meleanie

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