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    Question semi- to full-auto conversion

    I'm in the process of "manufacturing" an AR-15 piston SBR. Once it's all approved and whatnot, could I convert it to full-auto (or 3 round burst) if I wanted to?

    I don't know what goes into doing that hardware-wise, so if you do, feel free to share. Mostly though I want to know the legal implications of doing so. Would I have to re-register it with the BATF or what?
    Never, never, NEVER talk to the police. Ever.

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    Default Re: semi- to full-auto conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by pdelcasino View Post
    I'm in the process of "manufacturing" an AR-15 piston SBR. Once it's all approved and whatnot, could I convert it to full-auto (or 3 round burst) if I wanted to?

    I don't know what goes into doing that hardware-wise, so if you do, feel free to share. Mostly though I want to know the legal implications of doing so. Would I have to re-register it with the BATF or what?
    No new machineguns can be produced by private citizens since may 1986....
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    Default Re: semi- to full-auto conversion

    True story. Thats why a "transferrable" full-auto is $10k++. An extra sear is not $9k. Its the rarity.

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    Default Re: semi- to full-auto conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by bige64 View Post
    No new machineguns can be produced by private citizens since may 1986....
    This law needs to be challanged.
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    Default Re: semi- to full-auto conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by NightRocker View Post
    This law needs to be challanged.
    I agree completely...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bige64 View Post
    I agree completely...
    So do I. OK that makes sense. I was wondering why the machine guns for sale on here were all like $14K. Thanks for the explanation.
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    Default Re: semi- to full-auto conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by NightRocker View Post
    This law needs to be challanged.
    There is a petition up at

    http://www.petitiononline.com/NFABAN2/petition.html

    We need to rally together and stop this injustice because it is just the first step to taking away our Second Amendment for good!

    I don't own any Class 3 things... yet.
    But if LAW ABIDING citizens were allowed to buy NEW auto guns, I would probably be able to afford one! I would want an LWRC M6A4 and a PSD upper.
    I will never be able for afford one plus an auto sear! Maybe if we were allowed to own new ones that are cheaper.

    Anyways, I'm rambling. This is unconstitutional and needs to be handled!

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    Default Re: semi- to full-auto conversion

    They need to do a WAY better petition. AND get more than 270 people.

    It would get laughed at with 270,000 signitures.

    Sucks since you could buy a FA weapon for the same cost as a semi-auto if it weren't for the stupid NFA laws.

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    Default Re: semi- to full-auto conversion

    Or at least one that isn't 10 years old and expired.
    It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

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    Default Re: semi- to full-auto conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveyC View Post
    There is a petition up at

    http://www.petitiononline.com/NFABAN2/petition.html

    We need to rally together and stop this injustice because it is just the first step to taking away our Second Amendment for good!

    I don't own any Class 3 things... yet.
    But if LAW ABIDING citizens were allowed to buy NEW auto guns, I would probably be able to afford one! I would want an LWRC M6A4 and a PSD upper.
    I will never be able for afford one plus an auto sear! Maybe if we were allowed to own new ones that are cheaper.

    Anyways, I'm rambling. This is unconstitutional and needs to be handled!
    The "no new machine guns" provision was an amendment to the McClure/Volkmer Firearms Owners Protective Act of 1986, included by anti-gun legislators at the last minute and pushed through (who needs a machine gun anyway?). Reagan was under a lot of pressure to sign due to the provisions of the act that corrected 1968 GCA abuses (like the requirement to sign paperwork to buy handgun ammo). Since the President didn't have line-item veto power, he had to accept or reject the legislation as a whole. BTW, the governments (federal, state and local) have been chipping away at our 2nd Amendment right since New York City's Sullivan Act of 1911.

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