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    Default Re: Slapping in Combatives

    Quote Originally Posted by mercop View Post
    So someone not trained in Aikido can not effectively use a slap against someone? And even if they do and call it another name than it is wrong? Atemi means hand right? Or at least that was what they told me in a Ju Jitsu class a long time ago. So if you tell someone to just hit them with a hand how would they know how to hit them? I guess if they only studied Aikido they would just "know"?

    OK, wow, I just watched the video. Are you kidding me? When does anyone use that Hollywood choke unless it is up against the wall or on the ground. If you hit my forearms like that I will giggle. The easy escape from the Hollywood choke is to just bring your arm up center line and jab it into the attackers Manubrial notch, the Y at the top of your sternum.

    How does the posted video have anything at all to do with my OP? This is the problem, people taking watered down traditional arts and trying to apply them to the street. If you are lucky enough to find a truly combative martial art it will still take you at least 6 months before you can use any of it in real life. And if you are using it in conjunction with a firearm you need and instructor who knows what he is doing to accomplish that. It does not just happen. - George
    You must have never faced a skilled Aikidoka, and I hope you never do. Orthopedic surgery is expensive and painful. As for my opinion, it stands.

    As for your comment about six months being "too long." How long did it take you to be proficient with a pistol or revolver, 20-30 minutes???
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    Default Re: Slapping in Combatives

    Anyone ever see Bas Rutten fight? Pancrase allowed open hand strikes, no gloves. Easy way to break your hands. I've suffered boxer's fractures 3 times and had one finger pinned for 6 weeks. Heads are hard.




    That's how you slap somebody.

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    Default Re: Slapping in Combatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_NEPhila View Post
    You must have never faced a skilled Aikidoka, and I hope you never do. Orthopedic surgery is expensive and painful. As for my opinion, it stands.

    As for your comment about six months being "too long." How long did it take you to be proficient with a pistol or revolver, 20-30 minutes???
    Since my core art is Yoshin Ryu Ju Jitsu and Aikido came from Ju Jitsu I think I have. I teach people to be combat proficient with a pistol in a weekend.- Geogre

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    Default Re: Slapping in Combatives

    The ability to overcome the stigma associated with "slapping" someone is important when involved in a fight. Many people won't even instinctively go to it because they have been told that "girls slap, men punch", and many instructors never think to deprogram this. Slaps can be extremely effective in all types of situations, from all types of angles, on many different body surfaces.

    Good post.

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    Default Re: Slapping in Combatives

    Headcase, that is a very valid point and should be kept in mind.

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    Default Re: Slapping in Combatives

    Great Post, Mercop. Definitly gives something to think about. I always enjoy thinking 'outside the box'.

    Rigid training sessions will only result in "What do I do now?" feeling when things go outside of what has been trained.

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    Default Re: Slapping in Combatives

    Another plus for slaps is that, unlike punches, you're not planting and driving through the adversary, so it's easier to deliver an open handed strike and then get off it quickly for the next move.

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    Default Re: Slapping in Combatives

    Never underestimate the slap!




    Quote Originally Posted by mercop View Post
    A powerful slap to the chest causes the arms to go out to the side and then forward, as the chin snaps violently to the chest.
    Did somebody say Flair Chop!




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    The Nature Boy WOOOOO, if you wanna be the man you gotta beat the man.

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    Default Re: Slapping in Combatives

    How effective do you think the slap in this video was?
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=925_1259014393

    Be safe (and slap happy).

    Scott

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