carrying a gun without a concealed-weapons permit

**HiredGoon** · November 10th, 2009, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by zackattack784

I completely agree. When the media talks about registered guns it definitely makes me cringe, but I think the whole LTCF, CCW, CWP issue has been blown way out of proportion.

There is no gun registry in PA, but there is something that allows us to carry a concealed "weapon." By weapon I mean the definition of firearm as used in the UFA to determine firearms that can be carried with a LTCF.

Referring to a gun registry is straight up incorrect.
Referring to a CWP, ok, incorrect term, but essentially the same thing. If you pointed out the incorrect usage of CWP in this article to any non-gun enthusiast I'd be willing to bet they'd say, "so what? What does it matter?" Heck, I know a bunch of LTCF holders that even refer to it as a concealed weapon permit.

I feel people are making such an effort to bash the liberal media on this forum that they are concentrating on the tinniest details to do it and overlooking the bigger picture, like the guy in this article who is giving all gun owners a bad name.

It's not only the media that use incorrect license terminology, but many cops and sheriffs as well.

**zackattack784** · November 10th, 2009, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by gnbrotz

So just to pick out a few more "tiny details".....there are quite a few reasons that one might want or need a LTCF even if they never intend to actually conceal one on or about their person. I sometimes call mine my LTOCIP (License to Open Carry in Philly) or LTCDADSOE (License to carry during a declared state of emergency), etc., etc.

I'm aware, see below. And I'm sure states that call it a CWP also have exceptions to just being able to carry a concealed handgun.

Originally Posted by zackattack784

Essentially, with a few exceptions, our LTCF allows us to carry a concealed handgun.

Originally Posted by HiredGoon

It's not only the media that use incorrect license terminology, but many cops and sheriffs as well.

Yep, even LTCF holders too. A friend of mine just got his and he still calls it a CWP.

**mrjam2jab** · November 10th, 2009, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by gnbrotz

So just to pick out a few more "tiny details".....there are quite a few reasons that one might want or need a LTCF even if they never intend to actually conceal one on or about their person. I sometimes call mine my LTOCIP (License to Open Carry in Philly) or LTCDADSOE (License to carry during a declared state of emergency), etc., etc.

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**BufordTPisser** · November 10th, 2009, 09:25 PM

Sometimes I think thta we make such a big deal out of LTCF VS CCW / CWP just to make ourselves feel superior to others. The simple fact that we have an LTCF makes us superior. The constant haranguing of others about their lack of knowledge makes us look inferior.

ha·rangue (h-rng)
n.
1. A long pompous speech, especially one delivered before a gathering.
2. A speech or piece of writing characterized by strong feeling or expression; a tirade.

Doesn't make me any smarter, just makes me look pompous.

As long as we get it right, what does it matter??

**Armed_in_Lancity** · November 10th, 2009, 09:32 PM

I would say the LTCF is the LEAST of his problems.

**MrBi11** · November 10th, 2009, 09:35 PM

A Harley biker is riding by the zoo in Washington , DC when he sees a little girl leaning into the lion's cage.
Suddenly, the lion grabs her by the cuff of her jacket and tries to pull her inside to slaughter her,
under the eyes of her screaming parents.
The biker jumps off his Harley, runs to the cage and hits the lion square on the nose with a powerful punch.
Whimpering from the pain the lion jumps back letting go of the girl,
and the biker brings her to her terrified parents, who thank him
endlessly. A reporter has watched the whole event.
The reporter addressing the Harley rider says, 'Sir,
this was the most gallant and brave thing I've seen a man do in my whole life.'
The Harley rider replies, 'Why, it was nothing, really,the lion was
behind bars. I just saw this little kid in danger and acted as I felt right.'
The reporter say s, 'Well, I'll make sure this won't go unnoticed. I'm
a journalist, you know, and tomorrow's paper will have
this story on the front page... So, what do you do for a living and what
political affiliation do you have?
The biker replies, 'I'm a U.S. Marine and a Republican.' The journalist leaves.
The following morning the biker buys the paper to see if it indeed
brings news of his actions, and reads, on the front page:

U.S. MARINE ASSAULTS AFRICAN IMMIGRANT AND STEALS HIS
LUNCH

That pretty much sums up the media's approach to the
news these days.