READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania

[Yellowfin]

They pertain to how you make economic use of your real property. If you can't make money with land by economic activity, you can only either live on it as a residence or look at it as decoration, no?

[GunLawyer001]

Which is already happening now with zoning laws, building codes, the income tax, SS/Medicare tax, import/export laws, labor laws, property taxes...

Exactly, which is why more and more employers are leaving. Some law firms are even using associates in India, for document review and legal research.

Politicians can't just keep imposing more and more burdens on an employer so that the politicians get the good will and votes, and the employers try to stay alive under the added expense. Ask anyone who left a bad marriage, or anyone who quit a job; you stay in the game until the game becomes unwinnable, and then you leave. A manufacturer staggering under the OSHA and EEOC regs, plus a host of other laws and regs that control advertising and tort suits and material handling and the spacing of toilets and wages and firing and hiring....all while competing with Chinese factories...will eventually either throw in the towel and outsource to avoid the American burdens, or fold up entirely.

[marsto]

Hmmmm.... the CEO of my company got himself a 25% increase in pay this year (says the proxy statement) while many of my coworkers - people who put their lives into the business - were laid off. Most other CEOs in the U.S. are also sucking the blood of their employees and giving themselves massive raises while employee pay and benefits stagnate. I remember a time when corporations trimmed pay and benefits and canned employees only as a last resort when times were tough. Now they do it as a source of revenue simply to maximize profits when times are good. The top 1% of the people in this country are getting wealthier while the rest of us are losing ground. If the 1% don't want to end up with market socialism like in Europe they had better wise up. The greedy pigs are gobbling at the trough incessantly but eventually like all pigs they will get slaughtered. Americans won't become serfs.

[Yellowfin]

If the 1% don't want to end up with market socialism like in Europe they had better wise up.

Europe has no shortage of wealthy people, and in fact they use the socialist state's regulatory burden to blot out any upstart competition as to lock in their profits thus enable them to outearn even the most exorbitant tax rates. It's entirely possible that the leftist ultra rich want the nanny regulatory state to crush the economy so that they'll be all the more wealthier than everyone else and even more in charge than they already are. It's a sweet gig owning a sugar mill in a 3rd world country when you've got millions and because everybody else has nothing a burger costs a nickel and a 50 room mansion costs what we'd pay for a Volkswagon. If socialism actually hurt the idle (i.e. not hands on hard working) wealthy and powerful and/or they actually gave a shit about the country they live in they'd NEVER allow it to happen.

[rickypaul]

I have a meeting at the Federal Reserve Building this afternoon. I possess an LTCF. I always carry so I am currently armed. I have no way to get back to my house and lock up my firearm today. I called and spoke to the Federal Reserve Police. I asked if there was an accommodation to "check in" my firearm at the security station. He said that off duty law enforcement is permitted to carry in the building but no one else. He said that he has received this request before and regretted that they had no place to check in my firearm at the door. I have to leave it locked up in my truck. So they tell me I can't carry in the building, they make no accommodation for me to securely check it in, and if it gets stolen from my car, its my fault. I think I'm going to write a book called "The Complicated Life of a Law Abiding Gun Owner."

[knight0334]

I have a meeting at the Federal Reserve Building this afternoon. I possess an LTCF. I always carry so I am currently armed. I have no way to get back to my house and lock up my firearm today. I called and spoke to the Federal Reserve Police. I asked if there was an accommodation to "check in" my firearm at the security station. He said that off duty law enforcement is permitted to carry in the building but no one else. He said that he has received this request before and regretted that they had no place to check in my firearm at the door. I have to leave it locked up in my truck. So they tell me I can't carry in the building, they make no accommodation for me to securely check it in, and if it gets stolen from my car, its my fault. I think I'm going to write a book called "The Complicated Life of a Law Abiding Gun Owner."

You should have expected this..

Federal buildings are off-limits and there is no requirement for them to provide storage.

Only PA's state courts are required by law to provide storage.

[Gerry_D]

This is ONE LONG THREAD!
I will have to study it at length!
But to make a long story short, a relative of mine through marrage is a manager at a state liqueur store. He got very animate when I was checking out one day and had my sidearm. I do have a permit to cc, but he said he would let it go this time but he has the right to call police and have me arrested if I cc in a state liqueur store.
Has anything changed on this?
Something like a policy of the LCB?

I mean, after all if there is a law or policy to that effect, DUH... I don't think a criminal would follow it and inside the store I feel a bit safer, but walking to and from a vehicle is where I have a worry. Do they want me to check my gun at the door? LOL

Hey Thanks to all who wrote in this thread, I will be reading it in it's entirety shortly. From what I saw I wish there was ONE place that quoted all the statutes and laws concerning CC. Even if I have to attend a city council meeting. I'm not worried in the chambers as much as parking at night downtown Scranton and walking to and from my vehicle.

Cordially,
Gerry

[Shisno]

This is ONE LONG THREAD!
I will have to study it at length!
But to make a long story short, a relative of mine through marrage is a manager at a state liqueur store. He got very animate when I was checking out one day and had my sidearm. I do have a permit to cc, but he said he would let it go this time but he has the right to call police and have me arrested if I cc in a state liqueur store.
Has anything changed on this?
Something like a policy of the LCB?

I mean, after all if there is a law or policy to that effect, DUH... I don't think a criminal would follow it and inside the store I feel a bit safer, but walking to and from a vehicle is where I have a worry. Do they want me to check my gun at the door? LOL

Hey Thanks to all who wrote in this thread, I will be reading it in it's entirety shortly. From what I saw I wish there was ONE place that quoted all the statutes and laws concerning CC. Even if I have to attend a city council meeting. I'm not worried in the chambers as much as parking at night downtown Scranton and walking to and from my vehicle.

Cordially,
Gerry

No such law exists. He's blowing smoke.

[knight0334]

The LCB may or may not have a policy that applies to their employees, but there is no law or regulation that I can find that applies to the general populous.

[Statkowski]

The only way a state liquor store, an entity of the Commonwealth, could prohibit the carrying of a firearm, either openly or concealed, would be if a regulation published in the State Code existed, or if there was a statute in the Uniform Firearms Act.

There is nothing to be found in either the State Code or Consolidated Statutes.

Without any lawful auhority to do so, if the manager of a state store attempted to prohibit carry, he or she could easily be charged with Official Oppression. Call the police for an arrest for doing something legal, and it could possibly mushroom into even more trouble for the manager.

Advise your relative. Actions have consequences.

I've OCed in state liquor stores, and nobody said anything. Of course, I acted like everyone else - got my bottle (Mazza Vineyards Niagara), went to the checkout counter, plopped down my money, walked out the store.