READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania

[Curmudgeon]

No, in PA carry is legal in places that serve alcohol. Private proterty rights are paramount though.

Correct. Unlike some other states, you may open-carry or, if you have your LTCF, you may carry-concealed. As with any private property, you still must abide the wishes of the owner.

But there is no law restricting firearms carry around alcohol.

[flash 88]

ybnormal,
Thanks for covering me on this question. I was away for a few days and just got back.
flash 88

[Adam D]

I'm just trying to be sure but I'm pretty positive that in pa you have to have all handguns transfered in to your name and and shotguns and rifles you do not regardless of who you buy them from with the exeption of ffl dealers

[Pa. Patriot]

I'm just trying to be sure but I'm pretty positive that in pa you have to have all handguns transfered in to your name and and shotguns and rifles you do not regardless of who you buy them from with the exeption of ffl dealers

Nope, not correct.

http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/414...nsfers-pa.html

[gnbrotz]

I'm just trying to be sure but I'm pretty positive that in pa you have to have all handguns transfered in to your name and and shotguns and rifles you do not regardless of who you buy them from with the exeption of ffl dealers

Not quite. There are exemptions to PA's transfer requirements for transfers between parent/grandparent/child/grandchild/spouse. See 6111(c).

[gnbrotz]

Dammit. Looks like I'm the slow twin today.

[normanvin]

I'm just trying to be sure but I'm pretty positive that in pa you have to have all handguns transfered in to your name and and shotguns and rifles you do not regardless of who you buy them from with the exeption of ffl dealers

You don't have to believe us. You can look it up yourself here http://www.acslpa.org/pa_uniform_firearms_act.htm

[Alchemist77]

I'm new to PA, and now have a permit. One point that I wasn't clear on from the thread discussion and from scanning the statutes is whether or not it is a summary offense if someone with a permit carries onto a property or into a building that is posted with signage saying "no guns" or similar language (assuming that the property is not specifically excluded by statute or Fed. law).

e.g. in GA where I relocated from, ignoring the sign and carrying anyway was NOT illegal. It became illegal if you were noticed, asked to leave, and then refused to leave.

Which is the case in PA? is it prima facia illegal to carry in those locations, or only illegal if you refuse to leave after being asked to do so?

Separate question: In the situation where a church houses a private school during the week, but on Sunday, there are no school activities in-progress and the property is fully in use for church activities... would it be off-limits or ok for concealed carry during the church functions?

Thanks,
Alchemist77

[knight0334]

It is not a direct crime to ignore those signs posted by private property owners. PA lacks a direct offense in regards to "no guns" type signs that OH and a number of other states have.

However, such signs do serve as first notice to trespassing and set a condition to your permission to be on said properties. If you carry in such a place you can be cited for trespassing under 18.35.3503(b)(1)(ii) which is a summary offense, unless you are "made" and verbally told to leave. If you fail to leave for any reason there after it becomes a 3rd degree misdemeanor. Its really like failing to abide by a "no trucks", "no turning", "no hunting", or "fishing access only" sign posted on private property and violating those prohibitions or conditions.

As for the school thing. K-12 grade schools whether private or public are prohibited. The prohibition attaches to the grounds and buildings, not to the the time in which it is used as such. If that church serves as a K-12 grade school, it is off-limits at all times. But there is an untested affirmative defense for "other lawful purposes".

[Extinquisher357]

Pa. Patriot or Statkowski,
Can either one of you tell me if it is legal to cc on a septa train.
Say, from bucks county to center city in philly.
Thanks in advance.