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    Default Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carry!

    Folks - let's spread this story far and wide and get the word out - open carriers get fourth Amendment protection too!

    Please sign up for a DIGG.com account and DIGG this news column - REDDIT the story too if you have time.

    http://www.examiner.com/x-2782-DC-Gu...-carrying-guns

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    examiner.com — On September 8, 2009, United States District Judge Bruce D. Black of the United States District Court for New Mexico entered summary judgment in a civil case for damages against Alamogordo, NM police officers. The Judge’s straight shootin’ message to police: Leave open carriers alone unless you have “reason to believe that a crime [is] afoot.” . . .

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    Default Re: ATTN Dickson Dozen: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carr

    The morons around here are to dense too take note of that decision!
    Last edited by Steve in PA; September 10th, 2009 at 03:01 AM.

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    Default Re: ATTN Dickson Dozen: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carr

    That can be fixed!
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    Default Re: ATTN Dickson Dozen: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carr

    Good to hear that common sense prevailed. Good post.
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    Default Re: ATTN Dickson Dozen: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carr

    Very good. Not only do we have Commonwealth v Hawkins at the state level, but now we also have a decision at the federal level. Even though it's not in our federal court district, it's still helpful.
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    Default Re: ATTN Dickson Dozen: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carr

    A very important issue is how the judge denied the officers "qualified immunity"!!

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    Default Re: ATTN Dickson Dozen: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carr

    Wow. Case is a great read. It looks as though the judge reads PAFOA??

    There were two or three points there that could have been taken straight from some of our thread discussions!
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    Default Re: ATTN Dickson Dozen: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carr

    this is some great news,,

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    Default Re: ATTN Dickson Dozen: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carr

    I am VERY happy to see that "Qualified Immunity" was shot down. You can not simply TRAMPLE someones Constitutional Rights and then claim "Whoo can't touch me! Immunity!" like you are in a friggin' Lethal Weapon movie...

    Hopefully a jury awards him a reasonable amount for his troubles in the following civil suit.
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    Default Re: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carry!

    Let's see, It's ok for LEO's and the government to entrap us in order to get a conviction, then cry foul when the same tactics are used against them.

    My hats off and best wishes to the OC'ers in Wisconsin







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