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    Default Re: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carry!

    At our most recent Tea Party meeting last week.
    The gun rights attorney that spoke. Mentioned a court case he recently learned about.
    I seem to recall the case was concerning open carry being probable cause for searches.
    I do not remember the details such as names of people involved, where it occurred, etc...
    I'm waiting for the video of the meeting to be posted. So I can recall the details and verify I'm not completely wrong.

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    I 99% certain the gist was this.

    • The case is before the PA Supreme Court.
    • The defendant was stopped and searched simply because he was open carrying.
    • The defendant's attorney is a public defender who does not know PA's gun laws.
    • The attorney that spoke at our meeting is rushing to get some info together to help the defendant's case.
    • The news media and anti-gun crowd has been doing everything they can to keep it quiet about this case.
    • I think the case is about to be tried soon. Such as possibly Dec 2017 or Jan 2018.


    Does anyone else know what case this might be ?
    --ET

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    Default Re: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carry!

    Yeah but that is not the Eastern District of PA so most likely the decision is not applicable to Philly.

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    Default Re: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carry!

    Update to my previous post; post #21.
    The video concerning the case of simply open or concealed carrying being reasonable suspicion is now available.
    Joshua Prince starts talking about the case around 6:15 in the following:
    Last edited by ett; November 26th, 2017 at 10:09 PM. Reason: grammer
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    Default Re: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carry!

    Thanks for posting!
    Last edited by Bang; November 27th, 2017 at 12:02 AM.

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    Default Re: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carry!

    What drug this to the top?
    "Cives Arma Ferant"

    "I know I'm not James Bond, that's why I don't keep a loaded gun under the pillow, or bang Russian spies on a regular basis." - GunLawyer001

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    Default Re: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carry!

    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    What drug this to the top?
    I dont know.This seems to be happening a lot on this forum lately.
    Threads from years and years ago seem to be at the top out of nowhere.
    "One must be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves” ~ Machiavelli

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    Default Re: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carry!

    Appears to be contradictory court cases. The one in PA is at State Supreme Court level and a Public Defender is handling. I hope people help him out for free. We don't need to have OC listed as probable cause legally anymore than driving a muscle car means you might have been speeding so let me read your GPS or car computer!

    ETA = Also, I hope people would look at Commonwealth (PA) vs. Hawkins. In there they give a hint about how ridiculous probable cause because of a firearm is.
    It is you. You have all the weapons that you need. Now fight. --Sucker Punch

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    Default Re: ATTN Dickson Dozen: Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for open carr

    edit nvm
    "Cives Arma Ferant"

    "I know I'm not James Bond, that's why I don't keep a loaded gun under the pillow, or bang Russian spies on a regular basis." - GunLawyer001

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