RFID implants in health care bill

**PennsyPlinker** · September 3rd, 2009, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by JoeWilliams

Implant chips....

Straight out of Revelation and prophecy. I've been given to laughing at those who call Obama Anti-Christ, but more and more I'm wondering if perhaps the time hasn't come.

And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. Revelation 13:16-17

People will laugh, call this stuff fairy tales, and poke fun at us, but it sure sounds like the apostle John had an idea of RFID chips almost 2000 years ago, and expressed it in terms familiar to him.

I do not name Obama the Antichrist, and I do not say that his nefarious plan with these things is the fulfillment of the above prophecy. But as Joe has mentioned, I only observe that RFID technology certainly has the capability to be used in this manner. We already have people in this thread saying how convenient it would be to have all our info on a chip implanted in our body. And yes, it would be convenient - until the wrong people decide how they want to use it.

Just think how the state could control you if all that was known about you - credit history, criminal record, health history, licenses, bank balance, etc, was all put on that little chip. Anyone who scoffs at the idea is foolish. Regardless of what you think about the Bible and its prophecies, you can see this coming as a bad thing. Wait till they put GPS on one so they know where you are all the time. Think the government would like that capability? You bet they would. How would you run from them then?

**MTechnik** · September 3rd, 2009, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by PennsyPlinker

Wait till they put GPS on one so they know where you are all the time. Think the government would like that capability? You bet they would. How would you run from them then?

Your cell phone already can be used to track you. Even when you're not making a call.

**NikeBauer21** · September 3rd, 2009, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by MTechnik

Your cell phone already can be used to track you. Even when you're not making a call.

As long as it's turned on... it's much easier to establish a link when you're making a call, but as long as that shiznit is on, you can be traced.

**PennsyPlinker** · September 3rd, 2009, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by MTechnik

Your cell phone already can be used to track you. Even when you're not making a call.

I know that. My truck also has a GPS built into it so the On Star people can tell exactly where I am. So what is your point? I am only pointing out that the technology now exists. Following my particular eschatology, it is not likely I will be here for the implementation I described above.

ETA: Owning a phone or a truck that has the technology is a far cry from letting one stick one inside my body. I can always opt to toss the phone or buy a horse. Hacking something out of my flesh isn't an idea I exactly relish.

**NikeBauer21** · September 3rd, 2009, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by PennsyPlinker

I know that. My truck also has a GPS built into it so the On Star people can tell exactly where I am. So what is your point? I am only pointing out that the technology now exists. Following my particular eschatology, it is not likely I will be here for the implementation I described above.

ETA: Owning a phone or a truck that has the technology is a far cry from letting one stick one inside my body. I can always opt to toss the phone or buy a horse. Hacking something out of my flesh isn't an idea I exactly relish.

Word. Never will I allow such acts of terrorism go on within my body. They can take it and shove it.

**Strapped** · September 3rd, 2009, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by MTechnik

Your cell phone already can be used to track you. Even when you're not making a call.

My cell phone isnt implanted in my body...

**PennsyPlinker** · September 3rd, 2009, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by NikeBauer21

Word. Never will I allow such acts of terrorism go on within my body. They can take it and shove it.

Wouldn't that just be getting it in there by a different route?

Seriously though, I know what you mean. I just couldn't resist.

**ungawa** · September 3rd, 2009, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Morel42

However, I'd love to see what happens the first time they try to forcibly implant someone with something like that..

Same thing that happens the first time every single health care provider required your SS#. Or the first time you had to sign away every single right you had to your medical information, to be shared with anyone the contractor deemed appropriate, every time you met an X-ray tech or somebody to run a blood or urine test (HIPA).

What will happen, is, you will comply. Voluntarily, of course.