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    Default Re: OC Debate - MSNBC

    “Leading into the election last year, the NRA spent something like $15 million saying if Obama is elected he’ll take your guns away,” said Helmke of the Brady Campaign.
    Obama spent far more than $15 million leading into the election last year saying that if he was elected he would take away our guns.

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    Default Re: OC Debate - MSNBC

    i'm getting sick of hearing the brady people and all the mayors saying how bad OC is because you'll have people running around with no training and no permits.

    not every state requires training for carry permits but every state does do a check similar to nics. they just keep making it sound like everyone who owns a gun and carries shouldn't be allowed to. oh and im pretty sure all the criminals that carry ILLEGALLY have plenty of training.

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    Default Re: OC Debate - MSNBC

    I'm actually suprized, an MSNBC article that was not strewn with the opinion of the author.

    I do agree that people who are in a position that would be interviewed should limit their responses much the same way the author did, keep your personal opinion out of it. The response from the gun control advocates are going to be "see even the 2A proponents think OC'ers are wackos, regardless if it's just someones opinion.

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    Default Re: OC Debate - MSNBC

    You can vote here http://www.newsvine.com/_question/20...idential-event
    We need to hit this poll hard

    48.8%
    Yes. Law-abiding citizens should be able to do whatever is legal.
    1,415 votes

    51.2%
    No. It's needlessly provocative and could be dangerous.
    1,482 votes

    The map at the bottom of the 2nd page, It shows only 7 states that outlaw OC
    Wow, It has MD, NJ, listed as OC is allowed with no exceptions. I got find out more about this.
    This could get interesting if it were true.

    An OC Activist and 1 of the 3%
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    http://forum.pafoa.org/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=3790&dateline=1331561  797An OathKeeper and OC Activist, 1 of the 3%, Ed Stephan

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    Default Re: OC Debate - MSNBC

    OC is legal in jersey, as long as you have your carrying permit, afaik.
    You can't OC without the permit.
    Quote Originally Posted by headcase View Post
    let them eventually bring the FBI to kill my wife and son over fucking chickens....

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    Default Re: OC Debate - MSNBC

    "Let's get this straight. The reason for the guns is because we have a black President. The safety of the President is paramount.


    7 votes#11 - Smerlap - 7:47 pm EDT on Tue Aug 25, 2009"

    Yeah that must be it, all of a sudden people started carrying guns because we have a black president...

    "Carrying guns in the USA actually violates Amendment 2 of the Bill of Rights. It needs to be restudied by many folks to get it right!

    8 votes#13 - Ann Catherine Keirns - 7:50 pm EDT on Tue Aug 25, 2009"

    This one is just pure liberal propoganda.

    "I think my friends and I are gonna head on down to the next one by us with our pro-Obama shirts and signs, and our shotguns...

    5 votes#12 - Josh from Brooklyn - 7:49 pm EDT on Tue Aug 25, 2009"

    Now we've got assholes wanting to intimidate us in defense of their great leader, because we're "intimidating them" by carrying our guns...

    theyre going to turn this into a problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by headcase View Post
    let them eventually bring the FBI to kill my wife and son over fucking chickens....

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    Default Re: OC Debate - MSNBC

    Folks don't let folks watch MSNBC.

    You'll only want to shoot your TV.

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    Default Re: OC Debate - MSNBC

    Like Fox or ABC are any better. It's mainstream media....

    Anyhow that poll is 50/50 atm.

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    Default Re: OC Debate - MSNBC

    Unless we are to accept our Constitutional rights without reservations, they are no longer our Rights.

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    !#78 - thelemite - 9:29 pm EDT on Tue Aug 25, 2009

    I found both triggers to be terrible to me so the triggers are on a scale to me.. The Glock was a crisper suck and the XD was a more mushy suck. They are in the same family, SR9 (heavy suck), Glock (crisp heavy suck), XD( lighter mushy suck), M&P(heavy mushy suck).

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