Lawyer: FBI Trained Hal Turner As An "Agent Provocateur"

**WhiteFeather** · August 19th, 2009, 01:34 PM

Government Paying operatives to find people that are stupid enough or being able to be talked into doing something that is Illegal is just morally wrong. Yet it happens with undercover operatives all the time from fill in your favorite alphabet government agency. Many a sting operation that went terribly wrong and people died, the "acts" caused all of over Freedoms to be taken away.

It’s rare that one of their own "Agent Provocateur's" makes the papers.

FYI if you ever go to a meeting and someone is talking about doing something that is illegal, they are probably "Agent Provocateur" because they get paid to do it and usually have a get out of jail "Free" card in their pocket.
Never get talked into doing something that is Illegal by ANYONE, for any reason, no matter what.

http://www.courant.com/news/politics...,1700724.story

Lawyer: FBI Trained Hal Turner As An "Agent Provocateur"

HARTFORD — - Internet blogger Harold "Hal" Turner's attorney said today that Turner's background as an FBI informant will be a key part of his defense to charges that he incited violence against two state legislators and a state ethics official.

Superior Court Judge David P. Gold on Tuesday authorized Michael A. Orozco, a New Jersey attorney, to represent Turner. Turner did not appear again in court Tuesday because he remains in federal custody without bail in Chicago, where he is accused of threatening three federal judges.

In asking Gold to allow Orozco to represent Turner, Turner's Connecticut lawyer, Matthew R. Potter, said Orozco has a long-term legal relationship with Turner, plans to bring a complicated First Amendment defense and is familiar with Turner's background as an FBI informant.

That role as an informant for the FBI is a key part of the defense, Orozco said outside court.

Orozco said Turner was trained by the FBI as "an agent provocateur."

"Mr. Turner was trained by the FBI," Orozco said. "He was told where the line was — what he could say."

In his comments on his blog that brought the state and federal charges, Turner did not cross that line, Orozco said.

Orozco said Turner worked for the FBI from roughly 2002 to 2007.

"His job was basically to publish information which would cause other parties to act in a manner that would cause their arrest," Orozco said.

The comments for which he is charged came after he left the service of the FBI, Orozco said.

Turner stopped working for the FBI on his own, Orozco said. He declined to say who the targets of his comments were.

"If you compare anything he said when he was operating, there's no difference" to what he posted on his blog that led to the criminal charges, Orozco said.

He is scheduled to go to trial on the federal charges on Oct. 5. His next court date in Hartford is set for October 19.

**Seventy4Blazer** · August 19th, 2009, 03:02 PM

i dont see anything wrong with inside sting operations to weed bad workers and wrong doers out, but there is a line...

**panther76** · August 20th, 2009, 01:48 AM

I remember reading about an incident back during the Clinton administration, where the FBI and the ATF basically ended up trying to bust each other's paid informants in what they both thought was a raid on a "white-power" group out west. I also remember the same thing happening at some point with DEA and another LE agency trying to sell each other "drugs".

**son of the revolution** · August 20th, 2009, 02:11 AM

The ATF did the exact same thing to Randy Weaver of Ruby Ridge fame . A CI on the payroll tricked him into cutting a shotgun barrel 1/16th of an inch shorter then legal . Then the US Attorney intentionally dicked around with his notice of a change in the Court date . We all know the rest

**edstephan** · August 20th, 2009, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by son of the revolution

The ATF did the exact same thing to Randy Weaver of Ruby Ridge fame . A CI on the payroll tricked him into cutting a shotgun barrel 1/16th of an inch shorter then legal . Then the US Attorney intentionally dicked around with his notice of a change in the Court date . We all know the rest

And they did the same with Waco

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**Berks_Iraq_Vet** · August 20th, 2009, 09:01 AM

Speaking of "Agent Provocateur", anybody ever see the Kylie Minogue Agent Provocateur lingere commercial with her on a mechanical bull? Worth a "Google" search.