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  1. #201
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    Default Re: Open carry training memo for LEO dept's in PA [final draft]

    Quote Originally Posted by inspector_17 View Post
    Fantastic information here. One question I have is how up to date are the pdf's, doc's? I am seeing items from posts dated '07 - '10. I am looking forward to carrying openly also. thanks for everything
    Specifically which documents? Although I can't think of any changes in state law recently, specific questions will allow specific answers.
    While many claim to support the right, precious few support the practice.

  2. #202
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    Default Re: Open carry training memo for LEO dept's in PA [final draft]

    Sorry about that. The LEO training memo dated '09 and the gun rights pdf dated '10. those are the only ones I can think of for now. Thanks

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    Default Re: Open carry training memo for LEO dept's in PA [final draft]

    Hey Pa Patriot, I tried to send you a pm but it says you have exceeded your quota so here it is. Since I didn't see them already on your list, I am sending this memo to the following police departments:
    Mansfield Police Department, Zip 16933
    Wyomissing Police Department, Zip 19610
    East Cocalico Township Police, Zip 17517
    Brecknock Twp Police Department, Zip 19540
    Mohnton Borough Police Department, Zip 19540
    Cumru Township Police Department, Zip 19540

    Thanks for heading up this project, have a great day!

  4. #204
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    Default Re: Open carry training memo for LEO dept's in PA [final draft]

    Unfortunately, PA Patriot hasn't posted on this forum in 3 years. Nice to see someone still making use of the work though.
    While many claim to support the right, precious few support the practice.

  5. #205
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    Default Re: Open carry training memo for LEO dept's in PA [final draft]

    Not only that, but as OC has twice been the subject of MPOETC annual updates every police officer in PA has been informed that OC is legal.

    That's why we stopped sending memos to everyone.

    Here is the list of every agency which was sent a memo prior to the cessation of this effort

    http://www.thecrimsonpirate.com/leolist.html
    If you don't know who your state legislators are go here:
    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/index.cfm
    put your zip plus 4 in the box in the upper right hand corner.

  6. #206
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    Default Re: Open carry training memo for LEO dept's in PA [final draft]

    truecrimson, Thanks for the link. I had actually already looked at that list before from the very first post. I had not been aware of the closing of the project, so I sent a copy out to all the various agencies in the ares that I travel. Now that I know the project has been closed I won't send anymore out in the future. Stay safe, CC

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    Default Re: Open carry training memo for LEO dept's in PA [final draft]

    is open carry legal in pa

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    Default Re: Open carry training memo for LEO dept's in PA [final draft]

    Quote Originally Posted by gunny100 View Post
    is open carry legal in pa
    http://www.pafoa.org/law/carrying-firearms/open-carry


    Open Carry in Pennsylvania

    While Pennsylvania has a specific law that requires a License To Carry Firearms for the concealed carry of a firearm, and the carry of firearms in vehicles, the law is silent on the legality of openly carrying a firearm in other situations, making it de-facto legal.

    There is however a law that requires a License To Carry Firearms to carry either way in "cities of the first class", which as defined by law is only the city of Philadelphia.

    18 Pa.C.S. 6108: Carrying firearms on public streets or public property in Philadelphia

    No person shall carry a firearm, rifle or shotgun at any time upon the public streets or upon any public property in a city of the first class unless:
    (1) such person is licensed to carry a firearm; or
    (2) such person is exempt from licensing under section 6106(b) of this title (relating to firearms not to be carried without a license).

    To summarize, open carry is legal in Pennsylvania without a License To Carry Firearms except in "cities of the first class" (Philadelphia) and vehicles where a License To Carry Firearms is required to do so.

    With that said, we would like to point out that there is much debate among firearm owners about whether openly carrying firearms is really a good idea. While we will leave that choice to the individual we will state that in many urban areas (namely Philadelphia) doing so will draw unwanted attention from law enforcement that may include (but not be limited to) the following repercussions:

    Being stopped and questioned by law enforcement.
    Having your License To Carry Firearms seized and sent back for revocation.
    Being arrested either improperly or for other charges like disturbing the peace or creating a public nuisance.

    While this may not happen should you choose to carry openly, many urban law enforcement officers we have talked to have expressed a very negative opinion towards the idea. Some have suggested that law enforcement will do everything in their power to make your life difficult should you choose to.

  9. #209
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    Default Re: Open carry training memo for LEO dept's in PA [final draft]

    That's kinda out dated.
    The MPOETC has now covered OC much better.

    Outside of Philly they shouldn't even be questioning you.
    In Philly a request to verify LTCF is lawful.

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