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July 8th, 2009, 10:00 AM #1Senior Member
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Applying the safety during holstering...
Another thread got me thinking about a superstitious act I take...
Actually, two...
It all started when I bought my Taurus pt111 pro. When I first started carrying it to get used to the feel, I would carry with the safety on. When I started carrying it for real I carried with the safety off... but... I still applied the safety during holstering... I would holster the pistol with the safety on, then reach in and flick the safety off. I guess this has to do with the fact that during the holstering motion, there is the possibility of the trigger getting snagged and engaged under a near impossible set of circumstances. So I superstitiously holstered with the safety on.
Oh, needless to say I carry with one in the chamber... also, my mil pro's holster kinda sucks, so that might be why I have extra caution. I experience no similar issues to this or the one below while handling my m&p (no external safety).
So, thats the first superstition, holstering with safety on, the flicking it off.
Now for number two:
Realizing it was probably silly that I holstered with the safety on like that, and imagining some (more) experienced firearm handlers chuckling at me, I stopped holstering with the safety on, occasionally...
...but... I did start placing my finger behind the trigger in such a way that it would prevent the trigger from moving during the holster motion. Pretty quickly (like, right away) I caught myself doing this and realized this was probably not very safe... If done carelessly my finger could end up in the wrong spot, and again, under a near impossible set of circumstances I could engage the trigger myself.
So now I am kinda stuck.
I guess what I need to know is if there is anything inherently dangerous, bad for the hardware, or risky in holstering with the safety engaged, then flicking it off once the gun is seated. I have no problem continuing that superstitious action assuming it won't break me, someone else, something else, or the gun. So feel free to tell me if its stupid, but please specify if its stupid for practical reasons or stupid for safety reasons... if you get what I mean.
Thanks
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July 8th, 2009, 10:05 AM #2
Re: Applying the safety during holstering...
Don't be a moron. Keep the safety on when and while holstered. Do some dry fire practice to train yourself to automatically take the safety off while drawing the gun. It becomes second nature after awhile.
If you keep up your current practice whe will be reading a post by you of an AD in the future.Friends don't let friends buy Taurus's
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July 8th, 2009, 10:07 AM #3Senior Member
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July 8th, 2009, 10:22 AM #5Senior Member
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Re: Applying the safety during holstering...
that's the joke, it doesn't have an external safety.
I can't keep its safety on when and while holstered.
As such, it will not become second nature to disengage the safety during draw. By keeping my 'draw' similar between all carry weapons I do not need to remember which weapon I have on me and decide whether or not to draw style one or style 2, I just draw. Not to mention, I practice drawing under varying conditions, in several it would be near impossible to disengage a safety in a timely manner.
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July 8th, 2009, 10:30 AM #6
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Re: Applying the safety during holstering...
Dude... 1911...when in the holster, safety is ON.
Put safety ON...right when you are about to take the weapon off target.
The skills you are using are FINE motor skills...and not Gross Motor skills (finger behind trigger).
In a stressful situation... you will forget to be BEHIND the trigger and shoot something you do not intend to shoot. This is a dngerous condition.
Once done shooting at a target... keep the booger picker off the bang switch...outside of the trigger guard... put the safety on... re-holsterLast edited by marinakorp; July 8th, 2009 at 10:45 AM.
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July 8th, 2009, 10:45 AM #8
Re: Applying the safety during holstering...
Not a good practice at all. Even though the 1911 has a GS, in my opinion it is not recommended. If you train properly the TS does not add any time in getting your shot off during a gunfight.
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July 8th, 2009, 10:56 AM #9Senior Member
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Re: Applying the safety during holstering...
There appears to be a big misunderstanding... a Taurus pt111 millenium pro is not a 1911.
it is striker fired.
Pic here:
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July 8th, 2009, 11:21 AM #10
Re: Applying the safety during holstering...
OK let me get this straight, you are putting your finger inside the trigger gaurd with a loaded gun while holstering it with the safety off? If you do this under pressure you will probably shoot yourself. If your gun has a safety it should be on until you are pointed in a direction to destroy something.
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