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    Default Got the Black Powder Revolver Bug

    Picked up a Pietta 1851 Navy Revolver at Cabelas in the Bargain Cave for $103.00 and an 1860 Army for $130.00. Both are .44 cal. Took them out on Friday and I have to say, they are the most accurate pistols I have ever fired. Used .451 round balls and 25 grains of FFFg powder. Also used #11 caps since there were no #10's in stock. The#11's worked fine. Man was it fun shooting them. The only part that was messy was greasing the business end of the cylinder. Cannot wait to get back out there (and pick up a few more pistols).
    A Republic, if you can keep it.

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    Default Re: Got the Black Powder Revolver Bug

    I heart the bargain cave!! I'll keep my eye open for a pirate hat and an eye patch next time i go.

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    Just be warned, the Pietta max load is 15grs of FFFg for the 44cal revolvers. The arbors(AKA -loading lever latch pin) have been known to pull from the receiver with the brass frame models with higher loads. Once that happens, most guns become nothing more than paperweights or clubs.

    Page 20:
    http://www.pietta.us/pdf/Manuale_Avancarica_ENG.pdf

    Steel frames will take a bit more than the Pietta spec'd max. I've put about 300 balls through my brass 1851 Pietta though with about 21-23gr of FFFg and Pyrodex Pistol without any signs of harm(knocks on wood).

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    Default Re: Got the Black Powder Revolver Bug

    cap and balls are a good time.
    you'll get mixed feelings over the need to grease the cylinder.
    i'm in the no need to camp....you get fire past the ball, you have problems.
    it's only metal, we can out think it....

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    Wonder wads eliminate the need to grease. You seat them BETWEEN the powder and the ball....makes for a lot neater range outing, IMO. Are you getting a thin lead ring when you seat your balls? (!) If your balls are undersized they might back out and tie up the cylinder. The revolver I have says .44 cal on it but takes .457 balls.
    There are three kinds of people in this world....them what's good at math and them what ain't.

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    Default Re: Got the Black Powder Revolver Bug

    Quote Originally Posted by Bib View Post



    Wonder wads eliminate the need to grease. You seat them BETWEEN the powder and the ball....makes for a lot neater range outing, IMO. Are you getting a thin lead ring when you seat your balls? (!) If your balls are undersized they might back out and tie up the cylinder. The revolver I have says .44 cal on it but takes .457 balls.
    So long as it is shaving and swaging the ball, he is fine. Cylinder bore dimensions range from .439" to .454" between manufacturers.

    Most of the "44" cap & ball barrel bores are about .440" land to land, and .449-.450" groove to groove. ...with some variances between manufacturers.

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    Default Re: Got the Black Powder Revolver Bug

    Quote Originally Posted by Bib View Post



    Wonder wads eliminate the need to grease. You seat them BETWEEN the powder and the ball....makes for a lot neater range outing, IMO. Are you getting a thin lead ring when you seat your balls? (!) If your balls are undersized they might back out and tie up the cylinder. The revolver I have says .44 cal on it but takes .457 balls.
    I don't get a thin lead ring when I seat the ball. They do seat tight in each cylinder.
    A Republic, if you can keep it.

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    Default Re: Got the Black Powder Revolver Bug

    Quote Originally Posted by Berks_Iraq_Vet View Post
    I don't get a thin lead ring when I seat the ball. They do seat tight in each cylinder.
    You need bigger balls then.

    You want that lead ring and the swaging for sealing the chambers and providing enough resistance for the blackpowder to ignite properly. Blackpowder does nasty things if there is air behind the projectile or if there isn't enough resistance against the explosion.

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    Default Re: Got the Black Powder Revolver Bug

    you need bigger balls, my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justashooter View Post
    you need bigger balls, my friend.
    Nuff Said!
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