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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalNewbie View Post
    Thank Drew. As I understand it, the PICS provides instant access to background records on an individual to determine if the person is eligible to acquire a firearm or a license to carry a firearm. That makes sense.

    But what is the point of the State actually knowing if you purchased a firearm? What am I not seeing? Thanks!
    I don't know what really is the point, It has been that way for some time... The reality is that the state police like their records. I really don't know what they do with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalNewbie View Post
    But what is the point of the State actually knowing if you purchased a firearm? What am I not seeing? Thanks!
    your not seeing big brother...he's there, though.

    it's all about control.

    they need the list so they know where to go to confiscate all the citizen owned firearms when things like katrina happen...or the UN takes over america...or a bunch of anti-gun politicians get elected...or some incumbent party decides to declare martial law and cancel elections...or...

    whatever the real reason, though, you'll be able to sleep tight at night knowing it will be "for your safety and security".
    Last edited by LittleRedToyota; August 28th, 2006 at 11:06 AM.

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    Aw crud, what about you and your buddy switching C&R weapons back and forth (we both have C&R licenses)?...or what about the 2 pistols I just got in from SOG on my C&R?...do I have to run and get those registered now too?
    Yeah I'm bitching!

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    There is no registration, and technically if you have an FFL (and they qualify to be C&R) there is no requirement to go through a dealer. Since you have an FFL you just must log it into your book and log it out when done.

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    i am not saying I like the idea of sales records ect. but When I lived in NY we had real honest to goodness down to earth full blown gun registration. On the back of our pistol license it had make model caliber and serial number. When you renewed you had to bring the actual firearm (handguns) down to police so they can inspect the serial numbers to make sure you still have them.

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    Default Re: How to register an unregistered firearm.

    my uncle from williamsport gave me a pistol. i live in delco, can i just go to my dealer and get it transfered to me without my uncle being there?

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    Default Re: How to register an unregistered firearm.

    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    my uncle from williamsport gave me a pistol. i live in delco, can i just go to my dealer and get it transfered to me without my uncle being there?
    Your uncle would be the "seller" in that case, and they would need him present to sign some of the paperwork. So, no, you can't just go alone.

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    Default Re: How to register an unregistered firearm.

    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    my uncle from williamsport gave me a pistol. i live in delco, can i just go to my dealer and get it transfered to me without my uncle being there?
    Technically...Title 18 section 6111 states:

    (c) Duty of other persons.--Any person who is not a licensed
    importer, manufacturer or dealer and who desires to sell or
    transfer a firearm to another unlicensed person shall do so only
    upon the place of business of a licensed importer, manufacturer,
    dealer or county sheriff's office, the latter of whom shall
    follow the procedure set forth in this section as if he were the
    seller of the firearm. The provisions of this section shall not
    apply to transfers between spouses or to transfers between a
    parent and child or to transfers between grandparent and
    grandchild.


    If your grandfather is alive, Uncle or Aunt, whoever you share your grandfather with, can give to your grandfather who can then gift it to you.

    Before doing this, I would contact a lawyer. This would technically follow the letter of the law but not necessarily someone elses opinion on its spirit! (eg. The Judge that hears your case someday.)

    IANAL.

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    Default Re: How to register an unregistered firearm.

    Original poster owns a handgun, given to him by his girlfriend's father.

    Does the original poster have to do anything? No, the law does not require him to do anything.

    Should his girlfiend's father have done something? Possibly, depending on when the action took place.

    What did the law say at the time of the occurrance? We don't know.

    Is the girldfriend's father still alive? We don't know.

    Does a statute of limitations apply? We don't know.

    Bottom line? The recipient of the handgun, per state law, is under no obligation whatsoever to do anything.

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    Thumbs up Re: How to register an unregistered firearm.

    You are allowed to borrow his gun,you are just borrowing it for a long time.Who cares, if you and him are in agreement.Dont worry be safe Mtn Jack

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