What would you do in this situation?

**HyDef** · May 27th, 2009, 08:19 AM

Would your reaction differ if you were OC, CC, or unarmed?

http://www.scrantontimes.com/1.37057

Strong-arm robbery reported in N. Scranton
Published: May 27, 2009

Robbery reported in N. Scranton

SCRANTON - City police are investigating a reported strong-arm robbery Monday outside a North Scranton convenience store by a man who told the victim he was a police officer.

Gary Knapp, 49, of Scranton, told police he parked beside Joe's Kwik Mart, Providence Road and North Main Avenue, around 6:30 p.m. when he was approached by a man who had a pair of handcuffs and identified himself as a police officer. He ordered Mr. Knapp to face his vehicle and place his hands on it, police said; the victim was not handcuffed.

The suspect took Mr. Knapp's wallet from his back pocket and a bag containing money from his vehicle before fleeing north on Main Avenue in a green sport utility vehicle, police said.

**pandemic** · May 27th, 2009, 09:17 AM

I know of hookers who carry handcuffs. The cuffs aren't what makes the cop a cop - the badge does. Look for the badge. at 6:30 the sun should have been up so you can get a good look at the person, his car, his credentials, etc. OC, CC, not armed, doesn't matter. People are all too willing to roll over and play dead when approached by a cop.

**dman** · May 27th, 2009, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by mchaley

I know of hookers who carry handcuffs. The cuffs aren't what makes the cop a cop - the badge does. Look for the badge. at 6:30 the sun should have been up so you can get a good look at the person, his car, his credentials, etc. OC, CC, not armed, doesn't matter. People are all too willing to roll over and play dead when approached by a cop.

You make a very good point, most of us would complie I think. Nothing I hate more than a thief and even more so , a tricky bastard !

**Karma8541** · May 27th, 2009, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by dman

You make a very good point, most of us would complie I think. Nothing I hate more than a thief and even more so , a tricky bastard !

I myself would ask to see ID,along with badge, Cuffs alone does not make a cop..I dont just roll over for anyone or anything..If he ends up being a real cop then i would go into my own mode of questioning. Why are you asking me to do this. What is your RAS and so on..my .02 cents

Semper Fi,

**jcabin** · May 27th, 2009, 11:26 AM

This is why police officers must show some form of identification. any person who would submit to vocal commands of a complete stranger because they are telling you some bullshit deserved to be robbed, sorry.

**JavaProgrammer** · May 27th, 2009, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by jcabin

This is why police officers must show some form of identification. any person who would submit to vocal commands of a complete stranger because they are telling you some bullshit deserved to be robbed, sorry.

Nobody deserves to have their private property taken by force. It doesn't depend on a person's level of intelligence, common sense, courage, or will to stand up for your rights. Everyone has a right to their own private property.

**jcabin** · May 27th, 2009, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by JavaProgrammer

Nobody deserves to have their private property taken by force. It doesn't depend on a person's level of intelligence, common sense, courage, or will to stand up for your rights. Everyone has a right to their own private property.

I don't disagree. I do think when someone willfully submits without question, their rights don't account for jack shit until after the fact.

**JavaProgrammer** · May 27th, 2009, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by jcabin

I don't disagree. I do think when someone willfully submits without question, their rights don't account for jack shit until after the fact.

I'm glad to see that we don't disagree. I guess I interpreted the word "deserved" a little differently from the way you meant it. We can both agree that after the fact, everything should be done to return the victim's private property.