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May 27th, 2009, 07:02 AM #1
N. Korea: SHTF time?
N. Korea: No longer bound by 1953 truce
SEOUL, South Korea (CNN) -- North Korea threatened military action Wednesday after South Korea joined a U.S.-led effort to limit the trafficking of weapons of mass destruction, the official Korean Central News Agency said.
South Korea said Monday that it was joining the 6-year-old Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI) because of "the grave threat WMD and missile proliferation is posing to global peace," said Foreign Ministry spokesman Moon Tae-young.
The effort is aimed at halting shipments of weapons technology, a rare source of hard currency for North Korea, but Moon said the south would continue to uphold a shipping agreement with the North.
"Our revolutionary armed forces ... will regard" South Korea's participation "in the PSI as a declaration of war ..." the North's official news agency said.
Pyongyang also announced it was no longer bound by the 1953 armistice that ended the Korean War. Video Watch the DMZ which splits North and South »
"The Korean Peninsula is bound to immediately return to a state of war from a legal point of view, and so our revolutionary armed forces will go over to corresponding military actions," North Korea said through its news agency.
Since its April rocket launch, Pyongyang has considered almost any opposition a "declaration of war," including U.N. Security Council sanctions and participation in the Proliferation Security Initiative.
Within two weeks, the Security Council adopted a declaration condemning North Korea for launching the rocket on April 5. The North Korean Foreign Ministry said the condemnation infringed on the nation's sovereignty.
"Now that the group officially declared confrontation and war against (North Korea), its revolutionary armed forces will opt for increasing the nation's defense capability, including nuclear deterrent in every way, without being bound to the agreement adopted at the six-party talks," it continued, apparently referring to the Security Council.
Following Monday's nuclear test by North Korea, the Security Council condemned the move as a "clear violation" of international law, with even Pyongyang's closest ally criticizing the exercise. China said North Korea "disregarded the opposition of the international community."
In addition to its nuclear test, the North has fired five short-range missiles this week -- two on Monday and three on Tuesday -- according to Won Tae-jae, a spokesman for South Korea's Ministry of National Defense, the South's Yonhap news agency said.
North Korea's actions have heightened tensions worldwide, though U.S. officials said other nations will not be intimidated by the "provocative and destabilizing" moves, particularly Monday's nuclear test.
"If they want to continue to test and provoke the international community, they're going to find that they will pay a price, because the international community is very clear -- this is not acceptable, it won't be tolerated, and they won't be intimidated," U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice told CNN's "American Morning."
After passing a nonbinding statement of criticism on Monday, the Security Council is now working on passing "a strong resolution with teeth," Rice said.
"Those teeth could take various different forms -- there are economic levers, there are other levers that we might pursue," she said.
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North Korea first tested a nuclear weapon in October 2006. Pyongyang threatened last month to carry out a new test after the Security Council condemned its test-firing of a long-range rocket and extended economic sanctions against the nation, which desperately needs food and energy assistance.
North Korea agreed in 2008 to scrap its nuclear weapons program -- which it said had produced enough plutonium for about seven atomic bombs -- in exchange for economic aid. But the deal foundered over verification and disclosure issues, and the North expelled international inspectors and announced plans to restart its main nuclear reactor.
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May 27th, 2009, 08:14 AM #2
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Time to send Jimmy Carter or Billary over there to sing Kumbaya ....again.
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May 27th, 2009, 08:31 AM #3
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Couldnt resist
Last edited by son of the revolution; May 27th, 2009 at 08:34 AM.
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May 27th, 2009, 09:06 AM #4
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LOL.
Yeah, who knows what'll happen. The US is in charge of Japan's defense... and S. Korea's. I dont expect any fighting but now is a damn good time to.
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May 27th, 2009, 09:17 AM #5
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Without backing from China or Russia, N. Korea will not be able to do anything.
China and Russia are the reasons that N. Korea has been feeling "strong" in the past. From my understanding, they are not backing N. Korea as much.
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Well the little porn freak with a bad hair cut thinks he has an American hating, lightweight in the White House, so why not. If the North did invade the south I would be amazed if Barack does anything more than send the little freak anything more than a strongly worded letter.
This is the crap that happens when you try to appease the punks of the world.
If Barack wants to end this quickly he needs to drag the Chinese Ambassador into his office and tell him there are three Los Angeles Class nuclear subs off the North Korean coast. If the North Koreans move over the border, five of N.Korea's largest cities and five largest ports are vaporized.
I give N.Korea about three hours before the red army starts moving towards their border in mass.
Remember even though N.Korea would be the one getting Nuke-ed, the Chinese and S. Korea would be impacted by the EMP's put off by the detonations.
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May 27th, 2009, 10:16 AM #7
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I doubt China would do anything involving the military. Both of them are saying 'no' but nodding their head up and down. Kimmy needs to be eliminated already so that Korea can be united as a Democracy. The Korean war is the longest war in US history. To the best of my knowledge this is true because it's still going on. (I may very well be wrong though)
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May 27th, 2009, 10:48 AM #8Banned
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i know for sure Obama will never start a war, he rather work out a peaceful solution while North Korea is secretly massing up its army and by the time OBUMMER is ready for the solutions it will be too late they will have the nukes up and ready either aimed at South Korea or Japan. I doubt it they have the missle that will reach the US.
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May 27th, 2009, 10:51 AM #9
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Fear not all, Biden says O has backbone of steel....we're saved !!
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May 27th, 2009, 10:57 AM #10
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To be precise, from the US perspective this action isn't a war (at least not yet). The Koreans are at war with each other, but the US isn't at war with either of the Koreas, and never has been. See here, emphasis by me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War
In South Korea, the war is often called 6·25 or 6·25 War (Korean: 6·25 전쟁), from the date of the start of the conflict or, more formally, Hanguk jeonjaeng (Hangul: 한국전쟁; Hanja: 韓國戰爭, literally "Korean War"). In North Korea, while commonly known as the Korean War, it is formally called the Joguk haebang jeonjaeng or Fatherland Liberation War (Hangul: 조국해방전쟁; Hanja: 祖國解放戰爭). In the United States, the conflict was officially termed a police action — the Korean Conflict — rather than a war, largely in order to avoid the necessity of a declaration of war by the U.S. Congress.Last edited by ChamberedRound; May 27th, 2009 at 11:01 AM.
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