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May 24th, 2009, 11:18 AM #1
9MM SHORTAGE
HERE'S A GOOD ONE TO LOOK INTO ...
I HAVE A FRIEND WHO IS AN ARMY STAFF SERGEANT HOME ON LEAVE
I TOLD HIM HOW HARD (IMPOSSIBLE) IT IS GETTING AMMO HERE AT HOME
HE TOLD ME HIS UNIT WAS ORDERED TO USE UP ALL THEIR 9MM AMMO ON THE TRAINING RANGE
SAID HE'D NEVER BEEN ORDERED TO DO THAT BEFORE ...THOUGHT IT WAS STRANGE
IS THE GOVERNMENT CREATING THIS SHORTAGE BY FILLING FABRICATED MILITARY CONTRACTS BEFORE CIVILIAN / RETAIL ORDERS ?
WIN / WIN SITUATION FOR ALL BUT CONSUMERS
AMMO MFG. STAYS BUSY , MOVES ITS PRODUCT , MAKES GOOD $$$ ON MIL. CONTRACTS , CIVILIANS STAY UNARMED
WHO NEEDS GUN CONTROL WHEN YOU CAN JUST MANIPULATE FLOW OF AMMO
I'M NOT A CONSPIRACY NUT ...
JUST WANT TO KNOW IF ANYONE CAN CONFIRM OR DENY ....
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May 24th, 2009, 11:30 AM #2
Re: 9MM SHORTAGE
Oh, and uh, welcome to the forum!
While many claim to support the right, precious few support the practice.
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May 24th, 2009, 11:36 AM #3Banned
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Re: 9MM SHORTAGE
yeah its been hard to find 9mm ammo, i am still looking and when i see them i will buy iti mostly do my bullet shopping the 1st week of the month.
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May 24th, 2009, 11:55 AM #4Senior Member
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Re: 9MM SHORTAGE
I'm not sure but have heard that suppliers for D.O.D ammo contracts have dedacated production lines just for those contracts that do not affect commeracal production.
Defence supply invatories are dated. Depending on the items, some are sold, some are destroyed, and some are just used up.
I would say that ammo is one thing that is not sold as N.O.S.(new old stock) so better to get somemore range time using it up them destroying it.
Just my take of this.
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May 24th, 2009, 12:37 PM #5Banned
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yes those contracts do effect commerical ,cuz they use up materials like brass and primers thats the main cause of the ammo shortage, they are using brass materials to make it for their contracts in D.O.D. and LEO and there isnt enough materials or time to make it to replenish the commerical ammo.
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May 24th, 2009, 12:47 PM #6Super Member
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Oh it's hard to F'n say. When it comes to ammo, nothing would suprise me anymore. BTW- welcome to PAFOA!
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May 24th, 2009, 04:10 PM #7Grand Member
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I have been told by numerous people that it is easier to shot out all the ammo rather than turn it in. If you shoot it all you dont have to do the return paper work.
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May 24th, 2009, 05:38 PM #8Banned
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I saw Elvis shooting up all his issue 9mm rather than turn it in, with an Obama sticker on his Caddy.
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May 24th, 2009, 07:33 PM #9Senior Member
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OK, from someone who was on the inside.....of the Army. A unit is allocated certain amount of ammunition each year. This amount is based on the job and number of slots....not soldiers, but positions in the unit. A job where combat is not considered a primary concern will get allocated enough ammo for each soldier to qualify each year. A combat arms soldier will get more, since his job requires him to be "more proficient". If a unit is understrength by 10% that means they will have a surplus of ammo. If a unit does not consume all of it's allotment, they 'may' not have conducted the training that is required. Also, their allotment for next year may be cut by the amount they did not use.
Yes it's wasteful. But it's fun, too. Except when you have to consume the extra 250 rounds of 00 buck. That gets painful.
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May 24th, 2009, 07:56 PM #10
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We use to do this when qualifying for the State. Never return ammo. Then you don't have to do all the math and paperwork on putting it back on the shelves. I think they caught on, and ordered us to bring back what we don't shoot.
I did see where Winchester just got the DOD contract. Maybe they are getting rid of the old, so they don't mix and match it with the new stuff.
Great, it is already hard to find WWB. I guess it will be about impossible now.The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control....
The day they want my guns, they'll have to bring theirs!!!Proud to be One of the 3%
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