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Thread: Conceal Carry Badge - Legal?
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April 25th, 2011, 01:56 PM #91
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Ignoring the zombie thread, let me address this point.
Rights are not subject to the whims of bureaucrats or elected officials. The "stupid, ignorant, and thuggish" belief that they should be is reflective of the problems we're facing as firearms owners as we try to tear down the laws that make them so. For the longest time the right to bear arms has been restricted as a privilege, despite the fact that it is a fundamental right.
New Jersey is subject to a lawsuit right now over this very thing, the discretionary rejection/revocation of licenses to carry. The final decision in this case may very well put the final nail in the coffin for Pennsylvania's character and reputation language as well.
a host of prior restraint cases establish that “the peaceful
enjoyment of freedoms which the Constitution guarantees” may not be made
“contingent upon the uncontrolled will of an official.” Staub v. Baxley, 355 U.S.
313, 322 (1958) (emphasis added). The procedural requirements attendant prior
restraints have been applied to a broad range of constitutionally protected acts.
The Second Amendment was incorporated against the states only months
ago. The dearth of on-point, post-Heller decisions owes to the emergent nature of
Second Amendment jurisprudence and the basic fact that – unlike New Jersey – the
vast majority of states already allow their citizens to carry handguns on reasonable
and nondiscretionary terms.
http://saf.org/legal.action/nj.lawsu...Opposition.pdf (page 36)
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April 25th, 2011, 02:10 PM #92
Re: Conceal Carry Badge - Legal?
He's welcome to, but the main problem besides raising the dead is that he didn't actually add any value to the current discussion. If he had a new viewpoint that hasn't already been beaten into the ground, then reviving the dead would probably be overlooked, but to reply in such a manner serves no porpoise other than to stir controversy.
Another forum that I'm on, if you revive the dead without adding any value is an insta-ban.Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
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April 25th, 2011, 02:26 PM #93
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April 25th, 2011, 03:01 PM #95
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April 25th, 2011, 03:08 PM #96
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April 25th, 2011, 03:33 PM #97
Re: Conceal Carry Badge - Legal?
Saw this and thought I might have missed another one of these golden threads.
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April 25th, 2011, 03:42 PM #98
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Legal? Yes...
LAME? MORESO!
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April 25th, 2011, 04:15 PM #99
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September 2nd, 2017, 06:22 PM #100
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At the risk of pissing off the reigning "thread police" like someone already did, I'm bumping this thread instead of starting a new one.
Question - - - Did any laws change since the last post in 2011? I'm not looking for an opinion, I'm more interested in fact.
There are posts online by LEO's who were GLAD they had a shield to hold up when they were involved in an off duty shooting or while holding someone at gunpoint, and officers showed up with their adrenaline pumping. I'm NOT talking about running around with a badge out acting like LE as some here have been proposing and laughing about. There are a number of scenarios where displaying a CC shield could save your life. I'm not talking about it being on display at all times either, only when the gun comes out. If you're ever involved in an active situation you may not know an LEO has you in his sights, and I'd sure as hell want something displayed on me to give him pause. I had to call 911 a few times before I retired and the one time I heard the sirens far away, then they went out. I knew what was going to happen. After what seemed like forever, they walked in silently from all directions. In this situation they had our main office on the phone describing me and what was going on, there was going to be no confusion as to who was who. But you may not have that going for you for one reason or the other. When I go in a mall or building I check my phones signal strength and some times it is one bar or none. I may not be able to make that 911 call AND maybe someone did and described me. And if you didn't think about a mall shooting or public situation like this in advance you may want to keep that gun in it's holster for your own safety. I'd rather have a shield to display and buy me some time, than not have one at all and take my chances being misidentified.
This isn't ninja fantasy stuff, pulling a gun is as serious as it gets. As others have found out, at some point you may find yourself in a situation that shouldn't be happening, and you may be armed. That is the least opportune time to prepare yourself, a little like starting to lock the doors to your home AFTER you've been robbed.
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