Concealed Carry Permit Application References (Phila.)

[DonSmithnotTMD]

Both of mine live in a different county and one of my wife's was out of state, but then we don't live in Philly

[OrionBricks]

FYI, It can also take up to 10 weeks for Philly to issue it. Philly sucks.

[GL23]

When are we going to TAKE ACTION and try to put a stop to PPD and their BS ways of issuing permits? Who wants to join me in coming up with a strategy and executing a plan? I'm tired of this shit.

[gbrown221]

suing them is the only way the PPD listens. I had to sue them. As a resident I pay for the city to defend these lawsutis. The stick it up my *** both ways (tax dollars and having me pay filing fees to sue them)

[OrionBricks]

It amazes me that the 1 city in PA that you might need to carry a gun for protection, they make it so difficult to get a permit, Go figure.

[Ruslan]

Although it's not a matter of being a "stickler" on the reference issue.

The only provision on the approved PSP LTCF application says only that references not be family members. Nothing is mentioned at all about the residency of references.

I know, Philly and other counties add extra requirements and extra papers to fill out...but they are doing that on their own.

I live in Philly. Need 2 references(phone# address and name). Will become a reference for someone in exchange. Let's help out each other. Email me at r.y@usa.com

Thank you,

Ruslan

[PAMedic=F|A=]

I live in Philly. Need 2 references(phone# address and name). Will become a reference for someone in exchange. Let's help out each other. Email me at r.y@usa.com

Thank you,

Ruslan

Philly is no longer allowed to ask for references.

http://blog.princelaw.com/2014/07/22...f-information/

I am proud to announce that a settlement has been reached with the City of Philadelphia in the matter of John Doe, et al., v. City of Philadelphia, et al, Philadelphia Court of Common Pleas docket no. 121203785, stemming from the City’s posting and disclosing of what we alleged was confidential license to carry firearms (LTCF) information. You can download a copy of the Press Release – here. This was a collaborative effort between Benjamin R. Picker, Esquire of McCausland Keen & Buckman, Jonathan Goldstein, Esquire of McNelly & Goldstein, LLC, Jon Mirowitz, Esquire, and myself.

As a result of the Settlement, the City will pay $1.425 million to the class and will be separately responsible for the costs of administering the settlement. Further, and of similar importance, the City has agreed to a number of policy changes, which can be found starting on page 11 of the Settlement Agreement, including:

Not to disclose LTCF applicant information either electronically or in-person;
Annual training of the Philadelphia Police Department and Philadelphia License and Inspection Board of Review on the confidentiality of LTCF applicant information;
Customer service training for the Philadelphia Gun Permit Unit;
Posting a copy of the LTCF Application Notice on its website and where LTCF applications and appeals can be submitted or obtained, as well as, providing a copy to anyone who has his/her LTCF denied or revoked;
The City will not require references on the LTCF application and will not contact any references listed on the LTCF application;
The City will not require lawful immigrants or US Citizens with a US Passport to provide naturalization papers;
The City will not require any applicant to disclose whether he/she owns a firearm during the LTCF application process;
The City will not deny an application because the applicant answered “no” to any question regarding whether the applicant had been charged/convicted of any crime where the applicant received a pardon or expungement from the charge or conviction;
The City will process all LTCF applications within 45 calendar days;
The City will remit $15.00 to any applicant who is denied within 20 days;
The City will not require LTCF applicants or holders to disclose to law enforcement that they have an LTCF, that they are carrying a firearm or that they have a firearm in the vehicle; and
The City will not confiscate an LTCF or firearm, unless there is probable cause that the LTCF or firearm is evidence of a crime. In the event an LTCF or firearm is confiscated, the officer must immediately provide a property receipt, which shall include the pertinent information

Here is a copy of the settlement.

https://princelaw.files.wordpress.co...-agreement.pdf

[johnfritz]

Philly is no longer allowed to ask for references.

http://blog.princelaw.com/2014/07/22...f-information/

Here is a copy of the settlement.

https://princelaw.files.wordpress.co...-agreement.pdf

Oh ho!

You better be careful saying THAT around here.

[PAMedic=F|A=]

Oh ho!

You better be careful saying THAT around here.

Seems they refused his application. And that he needs a lawyer to help file contempt of court charges.

[Jhaydeno]

Seems they refused his application. And that he needs a lawyer to help file contempt of court charges.

Are you supposing, or did he claim they refused his application? This could get interesting; maybe even a color of law & suppression of rights suit if all persons working at the PPD were supposed to be retrained!