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    Default Concealed Carry Permit Application References (Phila.)

    Do they have to live in Philadelphia or can they live anywhere in the state? Is there any other things regarding references that they frown upon that aren't openly stated on the application. I heard that you must know your reference for 3 yrs or longer is this correct?

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    Default Re: Concealed Carry Permit Application References (Phila.)

    Anywhere in the State I believe.. there isn't a Phila LTCF, its a PA LTCF...

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

    And far as references, just ask your good friends or family and give them a heads up before you use them out of courtesy.

    Questions are basic:

    How long have you know him
    Do you feel he is responsible
    Have you noticed any depression, anger, mood swings
    Does he have a drinking, drug problem
    blah blah blah

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    Default Re: Concealed Carry Permit Application References (Phila.)

    Quote Originally Posted by HostileCityShooter View Post
    Do they have to live in Philadelphia or can they live anywhere in the state? Is there any other things regarding references that they frown upon that aren't openly stated on the application. I heard that you must know your reference for 3 yrs or longer is this correct?
    One of my referees had only known me for a year, it was fine. Mine were both in Philadelphia but that is not required. It just says that on the PPD web page. Just have them write their address and DL # on the forms.

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    Default Re: Concealed Carry Permit Application References (Phila.)

    Quote Originally Posted by BimmerJon View Post
    Anywhere in the State I believe.. there isn't a Phila LTCF, its a PA LTCF...

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

    Ad far as references, just ask your good friends or family and give them a heads up before you use them out of courtesy.
    In Philadelphia it's different, you don't just nominate referees, you have to get them to fill out a one-page form about whether they would issue you an LTCF, whether they think you are a US citizen and a couple of other questions.

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    Default Re: Concealed Carry Permit Application References (Phila.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Philbert View Post
    One of my referees had only known me for a year, it was fine. Mine were both in Philadelphia but that is not required. It just says that on the PPD web page. Just have them write their address and PHONE # on the forms.


    What you meant to say.

    At least, I hope. For York County, only name, address, and phone are asked for.
    While many claim to support the right, precious few support the practice.

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    Default Re: Concealed Carry Permit Application References (Phila.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Philbert View Post
    In Philadelphia it's different, you don't just nominate referees, you have to get them to fill out a one-page form about whether they would issue you an LTCF, whether they think you are a US citizen and a couple of other questions.
    Ah, good to know. I'm out here in suburbia

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    Default Re: Concealed Carry Permit Application References (Phila.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post
    What you meant to say.

    At least, I hope. For York County, only name, address, and phone are asked for.
    Well that goes on there too, but it's PA DL # and phone # in Philadelphia.

    I should add that neither of my refs were contacted.

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    Default Re: Concealed Carry Permit Application References (Phila.)

    According to this, references should be from Philadelphia. It does not say must be. But as you know, the letter of the law is not always followed.

    http://www.ppdonline.org/hq_gunpermit.php

    You must have the Reference Questionnaires (2) filled-out by References and returned with your application. References should be Philadelphia residents and not family members.

    References must include NAME, ADDRESS, PHONE NUMBERS and PA DRIVERS LICENSE NUMBER at the top of form. Failure to do so will result in processing delays and application denial.

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    Default Re: Concealed Carry Permit Application References (Phila.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Coops View Post
    According to this, references should be from Philadelphia. It does not say must be. But as you know, the letter of the law is not always followed.

    http://www.ppdonline.org/hq_gunpermit.php
    Yeah good looking out. I know they are sticklers here for things they wouldn't often be out in other counties.

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    Default Re: Concealed Carry Permit Application References (Phila.)

    Quote Originally Posted by HostileCityShooter View Post
    Yeah good looking out. I know they are sticklers here for things they wouldn't often be out in other counties.
    Although it's not a matter of being a "stickler" on the reference issue.

    The only provision on the approved PSP LTCF application says only that references not be family members. Nothing is mentioned at all about the residency of references.

    I know, Philly and other counties add extra requirements and extra papers to fill out...but they are doing that on their own.

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