SB 415 - Persons Prohibited No Longer based on CONVICTION

[Brick]

For certain crimes simply being charged will be sufficient:

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF PENNSYLVANIA
SENATE BILL
No. 415
Session of 2009
INTRODUCED BY FARNESE, HUGHES, FONTANA AND WASHINGTON, FEBRUARY 20, 2009

REFERRED TO JUDICIARY, FEBRUARY 20, 2009
AN ACT

1 Amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania
2 Consolidated Statutes, further providing for persons not to
3 possess, use, manufacture, control, sell or transfer
4 firearms.
5 The General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
6 hereby enacts as follows:
7 Section 1. Section 6105(c) of Title 18 of the Pennsylvania
8 Consolidated Statutes is amended by adding a paragraph to read:
9 § 6105. Persons not to possess, use, manufacture, control, sell
10 or transfer firearms.
11 * * *
12 (c) Other persons.--In addition to any person who has been
13 convicted of any offense listed under subsection (b), the
14 following persons shall be subject to the prohibition of
15 subsection (a):
16 * * *
17 (10) A person who is charged with a felony under one of
18 the following offenses:
19 Section 2502 (relating to murder).
1 Section 2503 (relating to voluntary manslaughter).
2 Section 2702 (relating to aggravated assault).
3 Section 2703 (relating to assault by prisoner).
4 Section 2901 (relating to kidnapping).
5 Section 3121 (relating to rape).
6 Section 3123 (relating to involuntary deviate sexual
7 intercourse).
8 Section 3301 (relating to arson and related
9 offenses).
10 Section 3502 (relating to burglary).
11 Section 3701 (relating to robbery).
12 Section 3702 (relating to robbery of motor vehicle).
13 Section 3923 (relating to theft by extortion) when
14 the offense is accompanied by threats of violence.
15 Section 4952 (relating to intimidation of witnesses
16 or victims).
17 Section 4953 (relating to retaliation against
18 witness, victim or party).
19 Any offense equivalent to any of the above-enumerated
20 offenses under the prior laws of this Commonwealth or any
21 offense equivalent to any of the above-enumerated offenses
22 under the statutes of any other state or of the United
23 States.24 Section 2. This act shall take effect in 60 days.

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[LBaker]

What country am I in? This is certainly not the one I was born into... Now you're guilty no matter what the facts are? These people need to be removed from office.

[-JD-]

What country am I in? This is certainly not the one I was born into... Now you're guilty no matter what the facts are? These people need to be removed from office.

What he said. (I'm slow today)

[edstephan]

This is just the narrowing of your rights.
Death by a thousand slices
We didn’t stop them because we were law abiding and it didn’t affect us.
We didn’t stop them when they passed the Veteran Disarmament bill because it was only nut cases.
Now, all someone has to say that you threatened them and you will lose your rights altogether. FOREVER!!!!!!!!
Where are you going to draw the line?????????


An OC Activist
Ed

[dc dalton]

So what the FUCK happened to guilt until proven innocent? What about found not guilty by a jury of your peers?

Seems to me this law makes it guilty until proven innocent ... where the hell did the country I love go?

[thelemite]

It became, or is rapidly becoming a socialist nation Dave.

So what the FUCK happened to guilt until proven innocent? What about found not guilty by a jury of your peers?

Seems to me this law makes it guilty until proven innocent ... where the hell did the country I love go?

[dc dalton]

It became, or is rapidly becoming a socialist nation Dave.

No I'm thinking the correct term is Fascist Police State

[PPM209]

I thought that was one of the questions on the 4473 - something about are you facing charges right now?

[-JD-]

...
Seems to me this law makes it guilty until proven innocent ... where the hell did the country I love go?

You are not nearly enraged enough!

It is not guilty until proven innocent. It is the guilty sentence immediately and forever if charged, REGARDLESS of, or if, there is any finding of guilt or innocence.

[schr8er2000]

Looks like its about time we started e mailing our reps AGAIN on something that is totally out of control.....

Guilty until proved innocent as NOT the way our country was formed, at least not until now....

Time to get these people out of office before they do any more damage...

This is the email I sent to Mr. Musto, Mr. Eachus and Mr.McCall....................
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I am appalled at the possible passage of this bill which allows a person CHARGED with a crime to be prohibited from possessing firearms before they are found guilty. To me this is GUILTY until proven innocent. That is the way our country was formed, ran and operated for over 200 years. Now there are some that feel that this process is wrong and we are to revert back to the middle ages and simply make everyone guilty before trial by ones peers, judges or others...

Please, please, please vote this bill down before this thing can actually be taken seriously by normal, well minded people.

Thank You

Paul Schroeder
Hazleton PA 18201