OCing Illegal? I Know It's Not

[Willtallica]

In a converstation with my co-workers, every one insisted that it's illegal to OC without a LTCF, but of course nobody had the slightest idea what a LTCF, is including this one guy who had one on him.
What I'd like to know is what document, or title code can I rip out or at least name drop so to cite my information?

[HiredGoon]

In a converstation with my co-workers, every one insisted that it's illegal to OC without a LTCF, but of course nobody had the slightest idea what a LTCF, is including this one guy who had one on him.
What I'd like to know is what document, or title code can I rip out or at least name drop so to cite my information?

OCing is not mentioned in any statute or code as being illegal, therefore it is legal.

You could print out and show them this:
2009 MPOETC update pages that relate to OC from the Pennsylvania State Police Municipal Police Officers' Education and Training Commission

[Swarner793]

Better yet, ask them to produce the statute that states it is unlawful. As mentioned previously on this forum, statutes or laws usually make things unlawful/illegal, not the other way around.

Be safe (and have them prove illegality).

Scott

[fingers80002]

Ortiz vs. Commonwealth.

[stephpd]

State constitution.

Just because you can get a permission slip to conceal never negates a protected right.

Lack of any laws prohibiting it makes it legal.

[truecrimson]

Commonwealth vs Hawkins

Both Ortiz and Hawkins are available here on PAFOA in the reference library linked at the the very top of your screen, and have been added to the OC archive web page.

ETA: Wait, your in Lebanon county? Want me to swing by tomorrow with my orange notebook containing all of the above plus the UFA?

[twoeggsup]

On the Fed level, the 9th Amendment:

Protection of rights not specifically enumerated in the Bill of Rights.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people

And of course the 10th:

Powers of States and people.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

So, If there is no specific law against something, it is allowed.

[lexnaturalis]

Well, do you have the statute that says that you can cook bacon on Sunday morning before heading to church?

You don't need a law/statute to make something legal, you need a law/statute to make something illegal.

[velkly]

Well, do you have the statute that says that you can cook bacon on Sunday morning before heading to church?

You don't need a law/statute to make something legal, you need a law/statute to make something illegal.

Don't use bacon and illegal in the same thought! We don't need to give the socialists any more ideas!

"But it's for your own good"

[mythaeus]

OCing is not mentioned in any statute or code as being illegal, therefore it is legal.

You could print out and show them this:
2009 MPOETC update pages that relate to OC from the Pennsylvania State Police Municipal Police Officers' Education and Training Commission

Can't stretch this enough!

Although, the OP's co-workers are partially correct, IF they were talking JUST about Philadelphia (SFN's favorite city).

Al