Death of CeaseFire NJ ???

**son of the revolution** · March 5th, 2009, 03:59 PM

Just so everyone on the PA Side of the river can enjoy our victory and also beware of the potential of a wounded animal to lash out

How the mighty seem to have fallen. I first wondered when a few months ago a friend of mine noticed that their domain was in redemption, basically meaning they hadn’t renewed it, and the registar was giving them a grace period where they could get the domain out. We had designs on grabbing it and using it to promote a pro-gun message. Alas the folks at New Jersey Coalition for Self-Defense got it before we did. We’re happy it at least ended up in the hands of a pro-gun group and not a domain farm. Their previous page can be found here, in case you were wondering.

Of course, this could just be some carelessness on the part of a volunteer, or on Bryan Miller’s part. I know he’s been rather busy lately losing in Trenton on his gun rationing scheme, so renewing the web site might not be much on his mind.

But a quick look through GuideStar shows they haven’t filed a form 990 since 2000, which means they are below the $25,000 income threshold for years. A quick search of New Jersey’s public charity search turns up nothing. The last address listed for CeaseFire turns out to be a church in Cherry Hill, New Jersey.

But a quick check of their incorporation status turns up something interesting. From 2003 to 2008, their incorporation status was listed as suspended. They reincorporated last June, using a law office as their agent and mailing address for the corporation. Bryan Miller is listed as the incorporator.

I now believe CeaseFire New Jersey to either be entirely the creation and pet project of Bryan Miller, or very close to it. This likely means that CeaseFire is, in fact, effectively defunct as a political entity, even if it remains incorporated in name. In short, there is absolutely nothing backing up Bryan Miller, except perhaps his relationship with the media. For the “Garden State’s leading organization devoted to reducing gun violence,” their grass roots look an awful lot like a barren field of dirt. Legislators in New Jersey fearing Bryan Miller can threaten their seats should fear not. CeaseFire New Jersey truly is a paper tiger.

http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009...ersey-defunct/
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**mojo** · March 5th, 2009, 04:15 PM

Great news ... maybe one day you guys might actually have some freedom.

**XD40coyote** · March 5th, 2009, 05:19 PM

The same thing happened in MD, the ceasefireMD website hadn't had the domain renewed and a pro gunner bought it up.

**ThoughtCriminal** · March 6th, 2009, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by mojo

Great news ... maybe one day you guys might actually have some freedom.

Thanks for the good laugh.

**bigbear** · March 6th, 2009, 01:16 AM

Please, please, please don't tease. LOL

**87th PVI** · March 6th, 2009, 01:22 AM

Great news! The lawyer from CeaseFirePA who recently came to my local city council meeting to try (unsuccessfully) to talk them into passing pre-emptive legislation was spouting misinformation every time she opened her mouth. Maybe a majority of the people who had once supported them have actually looked into the "facts" they were citing and found out that they had been lied to.
If confronted I'd bet they blame it on the economy, but they can't use that excuse if they've been sliding downhill 2000.

**son of the revolution** · March 6th, 2009, 02:00 AM

Was anyone asking questions to reveal the lies ??? Audience or Council ?

**87th PVI** · March 6th, 2009, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by son of the revolution

Was anyone asking questions to reveal the lies ??? Audience or Council ?

Council asked questions of her & got answered in the form of misinformation. Those of us from the forum who were present were trying to address council in response but were instead told that we had had our say during the public portion and that the "guests" were to have the last word at the committee meeting.
I addressed many if not all of her misinformation and exaggerations when I spoke again at the regular council meeting two weeks later as did others who came out again for that meeting.
Fortunately, our council had seen the light and did not want to pass the proposal. Unfortunately, while the majority said they would have voted the issue down, they instead tabled the issue thereby allowing the mayor to save face & not have his proposal quashed, and also, that way he wouldn't have to tell his little mayors against guns group or whatever they like to call themselves that he couldn't get it passed in his city.