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  1. #11
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    Default Re: THE BRADY'S AND OBAMA AGREE ON THE DANGERS OF CONCEALED CARRY

    Go back and read through all the incidents that douchebag mentions again, 75% of them begin with "charged with", not convicted of. Hell, anyone can be charged with anything. I've never actually hated another human being that I have never met before Helmke. If that prick dies before me I will take my next vacation at the graveyard where he's buried just so I can piss on his tombstone.

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    Default Re: THE BRADY'S AND OBAMA AGREE ON THE DANGERS OF CONCEALED CARRY

    Quote Originally Posted by Vig View Post
    Agreed. In order to be non-biased, this article would have to enumerate all the felony convictions of NON-license-holders as well. Then we could run a great deal of statistical analysis and come to the conclusion that legal gun owners are, as a general rule, much less likely to commit a felony than non-gun-owners.


    **I do have a citation for the above statement, if I can dig it up, I'll edit this post.
    DING! but that wouldn't support their claims, can't have fair reporting now can we?


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    Default Re: THE BRADY'S AND OBAMA AGREE ON THE DANGERS OF CONCEALED CARRY

    Quote Originally Posted by jerkin View Post
    Go back and read through all the incidents that douchebag mentions again, 75% of them begin with "charged with", not convicted of. Hell, anyone can be charged with anything. I've never actually hated another human being that I have never met before Helmke. If that prick dies before me I will take my next vacation at the graveyard where he's buried just so I can piss on his tombstone.
    Rep sent from me to you buddy.

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    Default Re: THE BRADY'S AND OBAMA AGREE ON THE DANGERS OF CONCEALED CARRY

    Wow, 25 whole incidents out of how many millions of permit-holders?

    It is just like these idiots to make an argument based on the margin. 99.9% of people have to suffer for what the 0.1% do. In the land of special interests, the minority rules.


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    Default Re: THE BRADY'S AND OBAMA AGREE ON THE DANGERS OF CONCEALED CARRY

    There were 6 incidents listed in PA. How many license holders do we have here??....something like 530,000 or maybe more??!!

    If everyone were this well behaved we would be the lowest crime country in the world as this would translate to about 3450 crimes per year natationwide based on a population of 300 million people.

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    Default Re: THE BRADY'S AND OBAMA AGREE ON THE DANGERS OF CONCEALED CARRY

    The question is : Who does Otyrant and the Brady bunch think are in danger??

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    Default Re: THE BRADY'S AND OBAMA AGREE ON THE DANGERS OF CONCEALED CARRY

    What holds more weight is what are the convictions?

    If there is any doubt to your story, even during a 'good' shoot event on your part, but due to lack of evidence or witnesses, the DA may decide to file charges for further investigation and review by your peers.

    So road rage incident....permit owner....charged with assault.... is not enough info. The person may have had a trial and been let off as a good shoot.

    Also, for the lady in Pa. with cocaine in her system that shot an FBI agent, we all discussed this case when it hit the papers here. It is not as straight forward as they lead the reader to believe.

    There are probably many other problems but I don't have the time now.
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    Default Re: THE BRADY'S AND OBAMA AGREE ON THE DANGERS OF CONCEALED CARRY

    John Lott has been producing reports for years, but that doesn't deter the gun nazis. As with the politicians, they do not wish to be confused by the facts.

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    This is exactly why we as a community need to get the facts out to as many people as possible . We have all the evidence we need to prove the Anti's are lying thru their teeth . Its that its not covered that is the problem . Once people start asking questions of the Anti's that they cant answer , their game will be up . So grab a soapbox and start telling anyone who will listen .
    Im working on cultivating a relationship with a Philly Inquirer Reporter , explained a difference of opinion is fine , its the flat out lies that have to stop . People have a right to know both sides . He seems agreeable enough , but the proof is in the pudding . Create Myspace pages , blogs , whatever and get as many facts to as many people as possible . If anyone needs information , feel free to PM me .
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    Default Re: THE BRADY'S AND OBAMA AGREE ON THE DANGERS OF CONCEALED CARRY

    How about the dangers of "no concealed carry". I would think that would dwarf whatever BS Sarah and O are spewing.

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