Various Pistol Prices versus 1911 Price

[JohnDaniels2006]

I've been doing a lot of reading about pistols lately, thinking about getting one. I'll be honest, I'm in love with the design and aesthetic features of the 1911. Been looking at a few Kimber options, Para Ordnance.

Anyways, but I have to wonder, why, when everyone raves about Glocks, M&Ps, XDs, do many 1911s costs several hundred dollars more? Are they more accurate? I've heard almost everything "advantage X" where X is glock, XD, M&P, when compared to the 1911. I want to get a 1911, but how can I justify the extra expenditure. Especially if I go with Kimber, which has a bunch of options over 1,000, or, a few over $1300. You could get 2.5 glocks for that cost.

My basic question: Why are 1911 designs so much more expensive than the glock, XD, M&P, when everyone says the latter three are either better or just as good as the 1911?

Furthermore, why is a Kimber 1911 so much more than (whatever other brand) 1911.

Thanks

[kpw]

There is a lot of little parts in a 1911 and the entire pistol except for grips is machined metal. Kimber has a huge variety at different price levels and they feel they can charge more for their quality. An even better question might be why all the polymer pistols cost so much.

[Frenchy]

Let's see, you can get a basic 1911 for around $500, you can get a glock for around $550 if you go on a good day... You can dress up a 1911, bring it up all the way past $2500 and more... You can dress up a glock and still have a $550 to 600 piece of plastic. What you are in fact doing is comparing a gun to an other, but to be fair, you are not comparing the same class of guns.

It would be like comparing a wheel barrel to a GMC pickup, then said why are Silverado's $47,000 .. Well you could by the basic GMC for $17,000 but if you want the heating leather seats and all the options, you pay a tiny bit more...

Just because you can haul dirt in a wheel barrel, don't make it a great pickup... but hey, its got a wheel and a "box" of sorts.
Now there are a lot of good things to be said about a good wheel Barrel, they do not depreciate, you can mix cement in them, they do not cost any gas, a drip of grease once in a while keeps it running, and to boot, if you have a clean wheel Barrel, push the arms down and it converts into a very comfy seat to eat lunch in!
I have seen a wheel barrel come down off the 6th floor full of cement and the worked went down got his wheel barrel and started to work again. they are much tougher then any GMC you will ever find...

Like some one once said, for $75 they can produce a polimer gun, why is it that you cant buy it for $200 to 300 ?

S&W has the same type gun in the Sigma, but they do not charge you for the name like Glock does.

[kpw]

Let's see, you can get a basic 1911 for around $500, you can get a glock for around $550 if you go on a good day... You can dress up a 1911, bring it up all the way past $2500 and more... You can dress up a glock and still have a $550 to 600 piece of plastic. What you are in fact doing is comparing a gun to an other, but to be fair, you are not comparing the same class of guns.
S&W has the same type gun in the Sigma, but they do not charge you for the name like Glock does.

Standard Glocks, $489 everyday at Bob's Gun Shop, McKean, Pa. Taurus PT1911, $569, S&W M&P9, $499, Kahr P45 $609. Why are Kahrs so pricey? The Sigmas are better than they used to be but I wouldn't really compare them to a Glock unless you mean manufacturing methods.

[wizardofgore]

You can't go wrong with a 1911. They are a great gun. Fun to shoot, easy to handle. Kimber Eclipse is a great looking gun and can take a beating and keep running.

[JohnDaniels2006]

Let's see, you can get a basic 1911 for around $500, you can get a glock for around $550 if you go on a good day... You can dress up a 1911, bring it up all the way past $2500 and more... You can dress up a glock and still have a $550 to 600 piece of plastic. What you are in fact doing is comparing a gun to an other, but to be fair, you are not comparing the same class of guns.

It would be like comparing a wheel barrel to a GMC pickup, then said why are Silverado's $47,000 .. Well you could by the basic GMC for $17,000 but if you want the heating leather seats and all the options, you pay a tiny bit more...

Just because you can haul dirt in a wheel barrel, don't make it a great pickup... but hey, its got a wheel and a "box" of sorts.
Now there are a lot of good things to be said about a good wheel Barrel, they do not depreciate, you can mix cement in them, they do not cost any gas, a drip of grease once in a while keeps it running, and to boot, if you have a clean wheel Barrel, push the arms down and it converts into a very comfy seat to eat lunch in!
I have seen a wheel barrel come down off the 6th floor full of cement and the worked went down got his wheel barrel and started to work again. they are much tougher then any GMC you will ever find...

Right. So, in this analogy the glock is the wheel barrel, right, and the 1911 is the ...whatever pick up truck you're talking about.

So, the wheel barrel moves at like 4 mph, pushed, the car moves at 60mph, no effort, carries bigger loads..

Yes, I see the advantages there. But what advantages do the 1911s have over the glock/xd/m&p? They have less firepower, for the most part, so, what advantages do they have?

As of yet, no one has mentioned any advantage, but rather instead complained about the price of the glock...So I'm starting to think there is no advantage? In which case my 1911 purchase would just be vanity. Which I'm fine with by the way, but still, I'd love to hear why the 1911 should be more expensive than the glock/xd/m&p, which are all reliable weapons.


I think so far the only real response has been "because they're made of metal"...? Is that it?

[Dredly]

Right. So, in this analogy the glock is the wheel barrel, right, and the 1911 is the ...whatever pick up truck you're talking about.

So, the wheel barrel moves at like 4 mph, pushed, the car moves at 60mph, no effort, carries bigger loads..

Yes, I see the advantages there. But what advantages do the 1911s have over the glock/xd/m&p? They have less firepower, for the most part, so, what advantages do they have?

As of yet, no one has mentioned any advantage, but rather instead complained about the price of the glock...So I'm starting to think there is no advantage? In which case my 1911 purchase would just be vanity. Which I'm fine with by the way, but still, I'd love to hear why the 1911 should be more expensive than the glock/xd/m&p, which are all reliable weapons.


I think so far the only real response has been "because they're made of metal"...? Is that it?

The question is "Why is a 1911 more expensive then a Glock / XD / M&P"... so thats really what is being anwsered

[Frenchy]

Right. So, in this analogy the glock is the wheel barrel, right, and the 1911 is the ...whatever pick up truck you're talking about.

So, the wheel barrel moves at like 4 mph, pushed, the car moves at 60mph, no effort, carries bigger loads.. But you still can't bring it up a 2X10 ramp to the first floor...

Yes, I see the advantages there. But what advantages do the 1911s have over the glock/xd/m&p? They have less firepower, for the most part, so, what advantages do they have?

As of yet, no one has mentioned any advantage, but rather instead complained about the price of the glock...So I'm starting to think there is no advantage? In which case my 1911 purchase would just be vanity. Which I'm fine with by the way, but still, I'd love to hear why the 1911 should be more expensive than the glock/xd/m&p, which are all reliable weapons.


I think so far the only real response has been "because they're made of metal"...? Is that it?

Right, now move along... Comparing a mid end 1911 to a Glock, it is obvious you do not want the answer, you just want to troll a little..
I am surprized you did not choose to compare a top end 1911 to a Highpoint.

[JohnDaniels2006]

The question is "Why is a 1911 more expensive then a Glock / XD / M&P"... so thats really what is being anwsered

It was answered?

You're saying the reason is because its made of metal? Thats it? Or did I miss something else?

Right, now move along... Comparing a mid end 1911 to a Glock, it is obvious you do not want the answer, you just want to troll a little..
I am surprized you did not choose to compare a top end 1911 to a Highpoint.

1) I'm not trolling
2) I have no idea what a high point is
3) I didn't know Kimber was a mid end 1911, figured they were high end


How is this trolling? What is so unreasonable about my question.

It's a very, very simple question: Why should I pay $900 for a good 1911 when I can pay $500 for a glock? What advantages does the 1911 have?

So far the answer is: 1911 is made of metal,

Another answer was, using the analogy anyways, the 1911 is like a car, compared to the glock which is like a wheel barrow. I'd love to know how the poster came to that conclusion though.

I promise you this is not a troll post, I have no idea why you'd think it was, either. But lol @ "why is the 1911 so much more money than the glock" "OMG YOU ******* TROLL!!" - seriously, man?


**I Should probably make it clear that I don't know very much about pistols. I don't own one, and am looking to buy. So maybe what I'm writing appears trollish and I just don't know enough to realize why? But if thats the case, feel free to explain.

[JoeWilliams]

You don't have to justify the extra expenditure. I can get a brand new Rock Island Armory 1911A1 GI model for $380, a Tactical model for about $420, and their Target model (Rock Island's version of a Gold Cup) for $600.

My wife, my step-father, and my best friend all own Rock Island Armory guns. Like just about every report I've read on them, their experience has been flawless. The guns are very accurate, and have been superbly reliable.