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    Default Will gun owners ever stand for the 2nd???

    We do not have the right to own handguns in certain cities
    We do not have the right to carry a rifle (unless hunting)
    We do not have the right to own a gun in select states (without registration)
    We do not have the right to own a full auto (unless we are wealthy)
    etc.

    My questions are do you ever see the gun community standing to keep our rights?
    Since we have not demanded rights (listed above) from the government yet, will we when we are reduced to straws with spitwads?
    What happened to "...liberty or death" in the pro gun community?



    This post is not suggesting or advocating any action against any government, but rather asking if anyone thinks someone will try to do something.

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    Default Re: Will gun owners ever stand for the 2nd???

    If people are unwilling to make a change at the ballot box, I can't imagine that they'd have the stomach to attempt it by force.
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    Default Re: Will gun owners ever stand for the 2nd???

    Quote Originally Posted by Nate View Post
    We do not have the right to carry a rifle (unless hunting)
    In Pa. we do.
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    Default Re: Will gun owners ever stand for the 2nd???

    Unfortunately, I do not beleive anything will be done until its to late. How is it, in this nation, of Constitutional Rights "gauranteed" , did the Citizens let the Government gain so much power and control? We seem to be of the mindset that with the Constitution, noone would dare remove any rights! That someone will stop these infringements. It seems that us Constitutionalists take care of our families and friends. Ignore the politics cause it will take care of itself. Every gov't agency oyu can name is in some way UN Constitutional. They all have firearms, which they constitutionally were forbade to ! The taxes is another issue they keep making excuses and getting away with. THe ATF is Hitlers SS! They have no rules governing their rules as to how they apply, they are a criminal organization by every definition.
    But we constitutionalists appear to be of the mindset that it doesnt effect me personally, by what figment of the imagination any citizen could ever utter that statement befuddles me! There are a few who try, We need to make up a firm united front and take back our Country. Some way unity must be obtained or just give in to the Socialist movement that is quite united against us!
    Last edited by nlcrsn; February 2nd, 2009 at 09:38 PM.
    -Remember the Constitution-

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    Default Re: Will gun owners ever stand for the 2nd???

    Give me liberty... or I will sit down and shut up.

    *sigh*

    I wish for a land to sail away to, and start over...

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    Default Re: Will gun owners ever stand for the 2nd???

    I understand your frustration, and we have much to do, but
    when I was your age, or a bit older, this country was in many ways worse with respect to 2A awareness. Shall issue was barely a fancy with much of the country may issue to no issue, and the AWB was looming to being in full swing. Be glad the internet is helping awareness.
    FUCK BIDEN

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    Default Re: Will gun owners ever stand for the 2nd???

    While the huddled masses were coming into Ellis Island and other location barely speaking english, the rich wspy left wingers were already planning their pacifists ways.

    That's my opinion.
    NRA Training Counselor, Chief Range Safety Officer, NRA Benefactor Member



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    Default Re: Will gun owners ever stand for the 2nd???

    Quote Originally Posted by Nate View Post
    We do not have the right to own handguns in certain cities
    We do not have the right to carry a rifle (unless hunting)
    We do not have the right to own a gun in select states (without registration)
    We do not have the right to own a full auto (unless we are wealthy)
    etc.

    My questions are do you ever see the gun community standing to keep our rights?
    Since we have not demanded rights (listed above) from the government yet, will we when we are reduced to straws with spitwads?
    What happened to "...liberty or death" in the pro gun community?



    This post is not suggesting or advocating any action against any government, but rather asking if anyone thinks someone will try to do something.
    We go to Harrisburg and stand up to keep our Rights, We work with legislators to protect our rights against the ones that would steal our birthright, because many always seem to be to busy with our life, job or leisure to fight for our rights, till there are almost gone.

    We hold interactive legislative lobbying events to teach others how to engage in the political process of keeping of rights.

    Next one is scheduled Tues April 21, 2009 I hope you can make it Nate along with others that feel helpless to stop the erosion of our freedoms that many take for granted. WE can teach you how to keep our rights and take back what has been taken in the past.....all that is lacking is the dedication, time and effort required by many more working towards that common cause. We have that kind of political power if we choose to excerise it.

    gnbrotz and lots of Others on PAFOA are also doing there part at the local and state, national level to hold on to our rights and take them back. Its a slow tedious process to restore them, what we lack if the political will to protect our rights with action when they are being taken, instead of just hoping someone else will do the job for us instead of taken up the burden of fighting to keep them ourselves, is how they have been taken away from US.

    Spend some time in the Political section on PAFOA to see what part everyone can do to keep them and read the Winston Churchill quote, because NO ONE REALLY should want it to come to the worse case Scenario


    "Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win
    without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure
    and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to
    fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for
    survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is
    no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as
    slaves."

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    Default Re: Will gun owners ever stand for the 2nd???

    The question: will US and A, people stand for a god given right is obviously no, but in any case this question should never be publicly asked when government's payroll people can see it.

    You're so silly!

    Ever since the government banned the word fuck from television, but as it practically allowed fucking or in any form used attention whoring to be seen we've exited our free state.

    Unless there is the chance to become organized once the government begins confiscating our arms there will be no chance to fight.

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    Default Re: Will gun owners ever stand for the 2nd???

    The movie. The Patriot is what comes to mind when I see a topic like this.
    If people are not willing to make the sacrifices that will be needed then all will be lost

    Some will stand there ground if the time comes. But will be defeated and be made out to be some kind of nut job for believing in what is the right thing to do. They will be forgotten about quickly and life will go on with more of are rights taken away

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