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    Default H.R. 17: Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

    H.R. 17: Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...d?bill=h111-17


    111th CONGRESS

    1st Session

    H. R. 17

    To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    January 6, 2009

    Mr. BARTLETT introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
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    A BILL

    To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the ‘Citizens’ Self-Defense Act of 2009’.

    SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

    The Congress finds the following:

    (1) Police cannot protect, and are not legally liable for failing to protect, individual citizens, as evidenced by the following:

    (A) The courts have consistently ruled that the police do not have an obligation to protect individuals, only the public in general. For example, in Warren v. District of Columbia Metropolitan Police Department, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App. 1981), the court stated: ‘[C]ourts have without exception concluded that when a municipality or other governmental entity undertakes to furnish police services, it assumes a duty only to the public at large and not to individual members of the community.’.

    (B) Former Florida Attorney General Jim Smith told Florida legislators that police responded to only 200,000 of 700,000 calls for help to Dade County authorities.

    (C) The United States Department of Justice found that, in 1989, there were 168,881 crimes of violence for which police had not responded within 1 hour.

    (2) Citizens frequently must use firearms to defend themselves, as evidenced by the following:

    (A) Every year, more than 2,400,000 people in the United States use a gun to defend themselves against criminals--or more than 6,500 people a day. This means that, each year, firearms are used 60 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.

    (B) Of the 2,400,000 self-defense cases, more than 192,000 are by women defending themselves against sexual abuse.

    (C) Of the 2,400,000 times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, 92 percent merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8 percent of the time, does a citizen kill or wound his or her attacker.

    (3) Law-abiding citizens, seeking only to provide for their families’ defense, are routinely prosecuted for brandishing or using a firearm in self-defense. For example:

    (A) In 1986, Don Bennett of Oak Park, Illinois, was shot at by 2 men who had just stolen $1,200 in cash and jewelry from his suburban Chicago service station. The police arrested Bennett for violating Oak Park’s handgun ban. The police never caught the actual criminals.

    (B) Ronald Biggs, a resident of Goldsboro, North Carolina, was arrested for shooting an intruder in 1990. Four men broke into Biggs’ residence one night, ransacked the home and then assaulted him with a baseball bat. When Biggs attempted to escape through the back door, the group chased him and Biggs turned and shot one of the assailants in the stomach. Biggs was arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon--a felony. His assailants were charged with misdemeanors.

    (C) Don Campbell of Port Huron, Michigan, was arrested, jailed, and criminally charged after he shot a criminal assailant in 1991. The thief had broken into Campbell’s store and attacked him. The prosecutor plea-bargained with the assailant and planned to use him to testify against Campbell for felonious use of a firearm. Only after intense community pressure did the prosecutor finally drop the charges.

    (4) The courts have granted immunity from prosecution to police officers who use firearms in the line of duty. Similarly, law-abiding citizens who use firearms to protect themselves, their families, and their homes against violent felons should not be subject to lawsuits by the violent felons who sought to victimize them.

    SEC. 3. RIGHT TO OBTAIN FIREARMS FOR SECURITY, AND TO USE FIREARMS IN DEFENSE OF SELF, FAMILY, OR HOME; ENFORCEMENT.

    (a) Reaffirmation of Right- A person not prohibited from receiving a firearm by Section 922(g) of title 18, United States Code, shall have the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms--

    (1) in defense of self or family against a reasonably perceived threat of imminent and unlawful infliction of serious bodily injury;

    (2) in defense of self or family in the course of the commission by another person of a violent felony against the person or a member of the person’s family; and

    (3) in defense of the person’s home in the course of the commission of a felony by another person.

    (b) Firearm Defined- As used in subsection (a), the term ‘firearm’ means--

    (1) a shotgun (as defined in section 921(a)(5) of title 18, United States Code);

    (2) a rifle (as defined in section 921(a)(7) of title 18, United States Code); or

    (3) a handgun (as defined in section 10 of Public Law 99-408).

    (c) Enforcement of Right-

    (1) IN GENERAL- A person whose right under subsection (a) is violated in any manner may bring an action in any United States district court against the United States, any State, or any person for damages, injunctive relief, and such other relief as the court deems appropriate.

    (2) AUTHORITY TO AWARD A REASONABLE ATTORNEY’S FEE- In an action brought under paragraph (1), the court, in its discretion, may allow the prevailing plaintiff a reasonable attorney’s fee as part of the costs.

    (3) STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS- An action may not be brought under paragraph (1) after the 5-year period that begins with the date the violation described in paragraph (1) is discovered.


    Here is a bill we can get behind
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    Default Re: H.R. 17: Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

    Sounds good, do you know when it goes in for a vote?

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    Default Re: H.R. 17: Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

    I hope this goes through.
    In order to get intelligent answers you must speak intelligently.

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    Default Re: H.R. 17: Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

    No way in hell will this pass with the current politicians in office. Obama can just veto it even if it does pass, right?

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    Default Re: H.R. 17: Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

    Yes, but a veto could be overturned. Not that we have the support for that, though. Overturning a veto takes too much voting power.

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    Default Re: H.R. 17: Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

    Given the current administration and Congress, it's likely this will not happen, as much as I'd like to see it.
    "Political Correctness is just tyranny with manners"
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    "[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
    -James Madison, Federalist Papers, No. 46.

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    Default Re: H.R. 17: Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

    The evidence is all in there, yet the liberals won't care. Hopefully they will get it through their heads that the police are only MINUTES away when SECONDS count.

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    Default Re: H.R. 17: Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by autotech6506 View Post
    The evidence is all in there, yet the liberals won't care. Hopefully they will get it through their heads that the police are only MINUTES away when SECONDS count.
    Stop yourself. Don't dismiss it away as just another "pipe dream" and kick start the flame war.

    This bill is (shockingly beyond belief) clear, logical, and to the point.. Amazing that anyone in Congress from any party did this.. It also has the bonus of being 100% truthful without "exaggerating"..

    No add ons, no by lines, no rhetoric at all. Just a short law, and then cites obvious and holy CRAP easy to understand examples of why the bill is a good one.

    You want the fight for the 2nd amendment? This is the perfect weapon in that fight.. They come at you with "guns are scary" you come back with calm facts, no NRA Jargon, no mottos, no spin.. I keep trying to tell people that.

    The talking heads on TV claiming to be "Pro-2nd amendment" are more often then not are the WORSE people to be speaking on it. I'm sorry to say this.. It's not right I know, but you don't want Jim Bob from Lubland Texas speaking on CNN about Gun rights.. You want someone who's young in a 3 piece suit who has a law degree, talking to Olbermann armed with every piece of information and fact to rebuke every question and "gotcha" moment that can be thrown at him...

    Also.. Mr. BARTLETT? From Maryland!?

    Holy. Friggin. Crap.. lol
    Last edited by Morel42; January 24th, 2009 at 11:12 AM.

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    Default Re: H.R. 17: Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

    it looks good on paper, so to speak.
    Guns don't kill people, it's mostly the bullets.

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    Default Re: H.R. 17: Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

    WHEN DOES THIS GO IN FOR A VOTE?! I want to make sure I call and bother EVERYBODY I can about this to make sure they know we are serious about this. Plus BarryO has been revealing a lot of his lies already so maybe he will sign this in an attempt at helping his already failing image. Remember guys Congress and the President are voted in not to do the job their way but to do it OUR way.

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