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    Default The Brady Idiots have sued the Interior Department over in-park CC

    http://www.bradycampaign.org/media/r...p?release=1097

    And they're so proud of themselves, too.

    Look, Obama, I made a doody!

    More at: http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/433...rah-brady.html
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    Default Re: The Brady Idiots have sued the Interior Department over in-park CC

    I want to know where they got this "fact":
    Quote Originally Posted by Brady idiots
    Numerous studies have confirmed that concealed carrying of firearms does not reduce crime and, if anything, leads to increased violent crime. Experience in states that have allowed concealed carrying of firearms has shown that thousands of dangerous people are able to get licenses. In Florida, for example, more than 4,200 licenses were revoked because many of these licensees committed a crime. Since becoming the first state to allow the concealed carrying of firearms in 1987, Florida consistently has had one of the highest rates of violent crime in the nation. Florida has been ranked as the state with the highest annual violent crime rate more often than any other state in the last two decades.
    Whereas:


    link to site: http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/fsac/Cri...ndex/index.asp

    And violent crime in Florida has been decreasing since 1990.

    It's funny what you find once you ACTUALLY do research. Unlike the Brady Morons...

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    Default Re: The Brady Idiots have sued the Interior Department over in-park CC

    Notice the last line, not of fear of criminals but of guns only.. does that include the park rangers and police officers on / off duty as well.http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/a.../36883739.html

    Group sues to reinstate firearms ban

    WASHINGTON - The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence sued the Bush administration Tuesday in hopes of stopping a new policy that would allow people to carry concealed, loaded guns in most national parks and wildlife refuges.

    "The Bush administration's last-minute gift to the gun lobby, allowing concealed semiautomatic weapons in national parks, jeopardizes the safety of park visitors in violation of federal law," said Paul Helmke, the group's president. "We should not be making it easier for dangerous people to carry concealed firearms in our parks."

    An Interior Department spokeswoman refused to comment on the lawsuit, saying the department does not discuss pending litigation.

    The Brady Campaign sued the Interior Department and its secretary, Dirk Kempthorne, as well as the leaders of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the National Park Service in U.S. District Court. They want a federal judge to issue an immediate injunction stopping the elimination of the 25-year-old federal rule that severely restricts loaded guns in national parks.

    The Interior Department rule overturns a Reagan-era regulation that has restricted loaded guns in parks and wildlife refuges. The previous regulation required that firearms be unloaded and placed somewhere that is not easily accessible, such as in a car trunk.

    But under a rule to take effect in January, visitors will be able to carry a loaded gun into a park or wildlife refuge , but only if the person has a permit for a concealed weapon and if the state where the park or refuge is located also allows concealed firearms.

    The rules change would take effect before President-elect Barack Obama takes office in January. Overturning the rule would take months or even years if the Obama administration wanted to, since it would require the new administration to restart the lengthy rule-making process.

    The lawsuit said members of the Brady Campaign will no longer visit national parks and refuges "out of fear for their personal safety from those who will now be permitted to carry loaded and concealed weapons in such areas."

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    Default Re: The Brady Idiots have sued the Interior Department over in-park CC

    Numerous studies have confirmed that concealed carrying of firearms does not reduce crime and, if anything, leads to increased violent crime.

    Again, look for what they are not saying, not at what they are saying.

    They mention concealed weapons and crime in one sentence, not saying that licensed concealed carriers caused crime rates to rise.

    Then in the next, say that 4,200 licenses have been revoked due to crimes committed by licensees.That would lead the unknowing to believe that these violent crimes were caused by the licensees, but as anyone that can google knows is untrue.

    I am sure that most if not all criminals choose to conceal their weapons, which would cause violent crime rates to rise by those who conceal weapons. As far as licenses being revoked, a DUI will do that, as will a false claim of domestic abuse among many other totally non firearm related crimes.
    Go sell crazy some where else, we're all stocked up here.


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    Default Re: The Brady Idiots have sued the Interior Department over in-park CC

    sounds great , finally the parks will be BRADY FREE ZONES!!
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    Cool Re: The Brady Idiots have sued the Interior Department over in-park CC

    Quote Originally Posted by 1861 View Post
    sounds great , finally the parks will be BRADY FREE ZONES!!
    Actually I was hoping they would sray in the parks, the bears need to eat too.

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    Default Re: The Brady Idiots have sued the Interior Department over in-park CC

    Quote Originally Posted by cgbudde View Post
    Actually I was hoping they would sray in the parks, the bears need to eat too.
    I'm not sure that bears are into coprophagia

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    Default Re: The Brady Idiots have sued the Interior Department over in-park CC

    The lawsuit said members of the Brady Campaign will no longer visit national parks and refuges "out of fear for their personal safety from those who will now be permitted to carry loaded and concealed weapons in such areas."
    Sounds like a win-win to me. We get to carry our sidearms and the sissies stay home.
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    Default Re: The Brady Idiots have sued the Interior Department over in-park CC

    Did we really expect anything less? After all they have to spend the money that they raise by slinging their BS fear minded OPINIONS.

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    Default Re: The Brady Idiots have sued the Interior Department over in-park CC

    I wonder when the public will see the Bradys as the gun version of Peta? The above article showcases just how stupid the Bradys can be, looks like laughingstock material to me. Peta has turned into a big laughingstock with their rediculous claims and lies, and crazy publicity stunts. Time for the public to veiw the Bradys as same, and when they hear of the Brady's, laughter and joking about " those asshats" will ensue.

    The Bush administration's last-minute gift to the gun lobby, allowing concealed semiautomatic weapons in national parks, jeopardizes the safety of park visitors in violation of federal law," said Paul Helmke
    Oh so you can't carry revolvers or single shots? LOL. And how is it a violation of federal law? Like WTF?

    ( note that the use of the term "semiautomatic" evokes a certain emotion among the general public, much like the term "steel jaw leghold trap" does when Peta,etc, use it- it is tactic to get people to feel discust when they read/hear said terms)
    LOL, I am a woman...

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