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  1. #191
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    Default Re: 2009 MPOETC Mandatory In-Service Training

    And here is the list of 2009 Quarterly MPOETC Commission meetings which I think are open to the public.

    JUNE 16, 17, and 18
    Toftrees Conference Center
    One Country Club Lane
    State College, Pennsylvania 16803
    (814) 234-8000
    Well, being local and all I guess I will look into this and see if the public is welcome.

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    Default Re: 2009 MPOETC Mandatory In-Service Training

    Update on the RTK request:

    I was paid yesterday, so I sent out the $$ to them. (Certified/RR of course!)

    I'll let you all know when I get the materials!

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    Default Re: 2009 MPOETC Mandatory In-Service Training

    Quote Originally Posted by lildobe View Post
    Update on the RTK request:

    I was paid yesterday, so I sent out the $$ to them. (Certified/RR of course!)

    I'll let you all know when I get the materials!
    Sweet deal! Thanks for the update!

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    Default Re: 2009 MPOETC Mandatory In-Service Training

    Quote Originally Posted by lildobe View Post
    Update on the RTK request:

    I was paid yesterday, so I sent out the $$ to them. (Certified/RR of course!)

    I'll let you all know when I get the materials!
    Maybe I missed something somewhere...is this a request for ALL the MPOETC training materials, since you already got the OC-related stuff?

    Do you ever find out about the copyright on the stuff and if you could post it?

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    Default Re: 2009 MPOETC Mandatory In-Service Training

    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    Maybe I missed something somewhere...is this a request for ALL the MPOETC training materials, since you already got the OC-related stuff?
    First answer:

    Quote Originally Posted by lildobe View Post
    My request will be worded as such:
    "The 2009 MPOETC Training manual(s) as well as any and all additional training materials used in the 2009 updates."

    Anything else I should include in it?
    Quote Originally Posted by lildobe View Post
    Well, the request was granted!

    Now I just have to come up with $45.90 to pay for the materials.

    On the Plus Side, they are including the DVD used, and the entire 115 page manual.

    I attached a PDF of the correspondence if anyone is interested.
    Do you ever find out about the copyright on the stuff and if you could post it?
    Being as its been determined by the PSP that it falls under the state Right to Know law there won't be any copyright issue and he can diseminate it at his discretion. The fee's they charge for RTK materials are just the cost of production/copying which they have the right to charge.
    Please help my Baby Kitties and I avoid being homeless.

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    Default Re: 2009 MPOETC Mandatory In-Service Training

    I got the Green Card back from the payment mailing today. They received it May 26th.

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    Default Re: 2009 MPOETC Mandatory In-Service Training

    And here is the list of 2009 Quarterly MPOETC Commission meetings which I think are open to the public.

    JUNE 16, 17, and 18
    Toftrees Conference Center
    One Country Club Lane
    State College, Pennsylvania 16803
    (814) 234-8000
    Well, being local and all I guess I will look into this and see if the public is welcome.
    __________
    ________

    16th - 1st meeting covers Waiver Training
    2nd session is on In-service Training
    3rd group is the Budget Meeting

    17th - 1st meeting is the instructors review
    2nd course is for school directors
    3rd session is for the Executive meeting

    18th - Wrap up of the previous 2 days: An overview of all the covered material.

    I called Toftrees and the referred me to the 717-346-4086, The MPOETC Commission officials who set up the conference.

    The first person I spoke with did not know if the meeting was open to the public. She referred me to Beverly who assured me that it was open to the public. She gave me the above information about the itinerary.

    I suspect that we could get further information on times that each start with the same number. I was writing furiously as she spoke but missed the them

    She was very helpful.

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    Default Re: 2009 MPOETC Mandatory In-Service Training

    Well! That took long enough

    I finally got all of the MPOTEC materials yesterday.

    For those of you interested in ordering all of this, really all you need to request is the DVD - it has PDF's of all the materials, though they aren't laid out very well (and it's missing page 49, which I had to re-create). I've gone through and created concise, individual downloads for each:

    So, for those of you who want to see:
    The entire MPOTEC update manual: (1.4 MB)
    http://www.lildobe.net/PAFOA_Docs/MP...E_2009-201.pdf

    Only the OC pages of said manual, a much, MUCH cleaner copy then what PA Patriot has (feel free to copy mine, Rich ) : (167 kB)
    http://www.lildobe.net/PAFOA_Docs/MP...pdate_2009.pdf

    And for those of you who are interested, the ENTIRE MPOTEC CD/DVD, including all of the power point slides and movies: (514 MB)
    http://www.lildobe.net/PAFOA_Docs/MP...pdates_DVD.zip

    For those of you wondering, but not willing to download the entire DVD to get all the PowerPoint slides and MPEG files, Yes, SheFearsNothing's case in Lebanon is specifically mentioned, including two of the TV segments about it.

    Also, if you read through the text in the OC update pages, Mtn Jack's situation is also covered on page 51:
    An officer who observes a person who is engaged in the open carrying of a firearm in the vicinity of a public event attended by the President or other persons under the protection of the Secret Service must consider whether any violation of Pennsylvania law is occurring, If there is not a clear violation of the law, it would be prudent to bring the presence of this person to the attention of the Secret Service who is empowered under various federal statutes to regulate the possession of firearms in the vicinity of persons under Secret Service protection.
    Have fun everyone!

    (and don't worry about raping my bandwidth - I have unlimited )

    BTW:
    I strongly recommend that anyone OCing not only read and to the best of their ability memorize the OC update pages, but also PRINT THEM OUT and CARRY THEM WITH YOU.

    It has gotten me out of two situations so far (not with officers)... being able to show the actual MPOTEC training documentation carries a LOT more weight then the OC fliers. I still carry those around though, for regular, curious, people.

    Also, if you are grilled as to where you got the MPOTEC Training manual (as it is normally not a public document) you should respond that it was received through a Pennsylvania Open Records request to the PSP's Right to Know unit. That sounds a lot better then "uh... I downloaded it from a gun rights website..."
    Last edited by lildobe; July 25th, 2009 at 11:59 PM.

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    Default Re: 2009 MPOETC Mandatory In-Service Training

    Thank you! I can't wait to check it out!

    Edit: Oh my! There is SO much good information in there! I can't wait to check it all out. Thanks again!
    Last edited by anonymouse; June 20th, 2009 at 11:41 PM.

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    Default Re: 2009 MPOETC Mandatory In-Service Training

    +Rep for hosting the MPOTEC info Lildobe!
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