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    Default 1911 Grip Safety Issue

    If it matters, it's a Stainless, Kimber Pro Carry II and I put a Smith & Alexander mag well in it; I've done this before with no problems.

    For some reason the first time I assembled it, the hammer didn't stay cocked so I disassembled and started over. I got the hammer to work fine, everything seemed OK then I checked the grip safety and the hammer will drop with the safety depressed or not (not good). What went wrong and how do I fix it?
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    Default Re: 1911 Grip Safety Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by wboggs View Post
    If it matters, it's a Stainless, Kimber Pro Carry II and I put a Smith & Alexander mag well in it; I've done this before with no problems.

    For some reason the first time I assembled it, the hammer didn't stay cocked so I disassembled and started over. I got the hammer to work fine, everything seemed OK then I checked the grip safety and the hammer will drop with the safety depressed or not (not good). What went wrong and how do I fix it?
    I think I know what your problem might be, I has the same issue with a CDP II, I needed to mate the surfaces where the MSH and the tabs on the safety meet.



    Some light filing on the grip safety where it meets the MSH was easier for me than filing the MSH as the safety is softer metal then the MSH.

    What's happening is that the MSH of the mag well is forcing the grip safety to be deactivated.

    ETA*
    This is also bad because it might actuate the lifter in the Swartz safety when it is not supposed to be actuated, like when putting the gun back together.



    OR

    You put it back together incorrectly.
    Last edited by jdlv4_0; December 4th, 2008 at 05:52 PM.
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    Default Re: 1911 Grip Safety Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by jdlv4_0 View Post
    I think I know what your problem might be, I has the same issue with a CDP I needed to mate the surfaces where the MSH and the tabs on the safety meet.



    Some light filing on the grip safety where it meets the MSH was easier for me than filing the MSH as the safety is softer metal then the MSH.

    What's happening is that the MSH of the mag well is forcing the grip safety to be deactivated.

    ETA*
    This is also bad because it might actuate the lifter in the Swartz safety when it is not supposed to be actuated, like when putting the gun back together.
    Ohhhh I get it; and this time, unlike the successful times, I didn't buy a Kimber mag well. That could be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wboggs View Post
    Ohhhh I get it; and this time, unlike the successful times, I didn't buy a Kimber mag well. That could be it.
    I went back and edited my post, there's on more option that I forgot to list that is more common.
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    Default Re: 1911 Grip Safety Issue

    OK so being that this is a carry weapon, I'm wise to have a gun smith fit this properly I assume. I really dont want a .45 bullet ripping my belly and leg open. Right?

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    Default Re: 1911 Grip Safety Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by wboggs View Post
    OK so being that this is a carry weapon, I'm wise to have a gun smith fit this properly I assume. I really dont want a .45 bullet ripping my belly and leg open. Right?
    That's up to you, but it's not a hard fix as outlined above.

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    Default Re: 1911 Grip Safety Issue

    My personality being as determined as it is, I fitted it and it works fine; I just cant let a project sit. Thanks a bunch guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wboggs View Post
    My personality being as determined as it is, I fitted it and it works fine; I just cant let a project sit. Thanks a bunch guys.
    That's what we're here for, glad you got it working right.
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    Yea I got the Dremel Tool out and ground the new spring housing since I havent even shot the gun yet, I didn't want to be altering any original parts. It worked out fine.

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    Default Re: 1911 Grip Safety Issue

    Bringing this thread back, as I purchased my first 1911 based gun and I'm having the same problems.

    I know I should just bring it to a smith, but I really don't have access to one and once I understand something I'm usually fairly competent.

    What is the MSH that is being referred to (main spring housing) or something else? I broke it down to a certain extent and cannot see anything that's obvious. It was a comp gun and does have an Wilson Trigger put in it. If it was done in-correctly I really do not know, or if there's something that was deliberately done what could I look for? I see references that most that have had the grip safety disabled have pinned it and what not, mine seems functional in all aspects other than it will not block the trigger from firing.

    Thank you
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