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    Default Re: Who makes the best AR15 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mity2 View Post
    I joined M4.com, and basically asked same question. Everyone tells me different, but basicaly what I got is unless its Colt 6920, and everything else is junk in oneway or other.
    +1. When I get that type of feedback on ANY product, I immediately become suspect of any information that follows. Bill T.

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    Default Re: Who makes the best AR15 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by dasanii19 View Post
    Bushmaster does not magnetic particle test or proof test its bolts.
    Yes they do.

    " We manufacture to mil. spec. or better, and magnetic particle inspect to insure against cracks or flaws that could cause catastrophic failure or injury."


    http://www.bushmaster.com/products.asp?cat=601

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    And you wanna know the sad part?

    There are several automobile machine shops that will magnetic particle test a bolt almost for free.

    It only costs $30 to have a whole V8 engine block done in some shops.....and $2 for a set of connecting rods these days......

    Lycanit'smarketedlikeit'sspecialthrope

    I taught Chuck Norris to bump-fire.

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    Default Re: Who makes the best AR15 ?

    Les Baer is the best.

    Simple question, simple answer.

    www.BallisticTech.com

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    Default Re: Who makes the best AR15 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by billt View Post
    Yes they do.

    " We manufacture to mil. spec. or better, and magnetic particle inspect to insure against cracks or flaws that could cause catastrophic failure or injury."


    http://www.bushmaster.com/products.asp?cat=601

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    Semantics.

    Not every bolt and every barrel. They conduct MP "sampling".

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    Default Re: Who makes the best AR15 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BallisticTech View Post
    Les Baer is the best.

    Simple question, simple answer.

    www.BallisticTech.com
    ETA: On second thought, nevermind.
    Last edited by TonyF; May 27th, 2008 at 10:14 AM.

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    Default Re: Who makes the best AR15 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyF View Post
    Not every bolt and every barrel. They conduct MP "sampling".
    And we know this how??? Bill T.

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    Default Re: Who makes the best AR15 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by billt View Post
    And we know this how??? Bill T.
    It's standard quality control process.

    The same method is applied everywhere in almost every industry.

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    Default Re: Who makes the best AR15 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaos View Post
    It's standard quality control process.

    The same method is applied everywhere in almost every industry.
    Thank you.

    SPC = Statistical Process Control (e.g. "sampling").

    The reason Colt MP's every bolt and every barrel is because it is a requirement of the government (military) contract. That's just one reason Colt's quality, and consequently their cost, is higher. It's more costly to test every bolt and every barrel and discard those that fail.

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    Default Re: Who makes the best AR15 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyF View Post
    Thank you.

    SPC = Statistical Process Control (e.g. "sampling").

    The reason Colt MP's every bolt and every barrel is because it is a requirement of the government (military) contract. That's just one reason Colt's quality, and consequently their cost, is higher. It's more costly to test every bolt and every barrel and discard those that fail.
    Funny thing is the ones that fail would still be better than some of the lesser manufacturers product.

    About one of the only "reality" shows I'll watch is "how it's made" on discovery channel. They have tons of episodes showing different manufacturers using different quality control methods, but for the most part they all originate from the random sampling method.

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