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    Default Re: What Can You Do If a Mob Surrounds Your Car?

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    I'm not sure where the line is between "we're grabbing you and taking you hostage" and "we're using physical force to hold you here for our purposes", but that line will be different in Philadelphia under the lunatic Krasner, than it would be further north and west of Philly, the suburbs where sanity still resides.
    I think that falls under a felony is being committed against you, and authorizes the use of deadly force.
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    The Socialists and Commies don't want you to have the right to self defense. I've seen guys clear a room with a good beer and egg fart, don't think that's illegal. Would that fall under choking someone?

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    Default Re: What Can You Do If a Mob Surrounds Your Car?

    I've thought about this scenario...

    ...I'd keep driving at a slow steady speed (to avoid injuries), through stop signs and red lights. Once I cleared the mob I'd increase my speed and keep going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarzan View Post
    The Socialists and Commies don't want you to have the right to self defense. I've seen guys clear a room with a good beer and egg fart, don't think that's illegal. Would that fall under choking someone?
    Choking? No. Gagging? Yes.
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    Default Re: What Can You Do If a Mob Surrounds Your Car?

    If you slowly pull forward when someone is standing in front of you, you invade a space they occupy, hence you are guilty of assault with a deadly weapon.

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    Default Re: What Can You Do If a Mob Surrounds Your Car?

    I'm thinking about doing something subtle to the front end of my SUV, to convey the idea that maybe I won't be stopping just because the criminals throw themselves into my path:

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    Default Re: What Can You Do If a Mob Surrounds Your Car?

    Quote Originally Posted by JaySmith View Post
    I think that falls under a felony is being committed against you, and authorizes the use of deadly force.
    I think we covered this before, and I don't think having a felony committed against you always authorizes the use of deadly force. The felony has to put you in reasonable fear of imminent bodily harm or death, etc.
    Power always thinks...that it is doing God's service when it is violating all his laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    If they break my window as they try to get into my vehicle at us, they will likely die.

    If they merely stand in my way and prevent me from driving, then they live, and I made some bad route choices that day.

    Before using deadly force (like shooting or driving over people), you need to be able to articulate how your choices at that moment were either (a) let them kill you or (b) do things that are intended to save your life but have the downside of maybe killing the assholes that were trying to kill you.

    Deadly force may sometimes be used to save your life, save another innocent person's life, stop a kidnapping or rape, or prevent grievous bodily harm. I'm not sure where the line is between "we're grabbing you and taking you hostage" and "we're using physical force to hold you here for our purposes", but that line will be different in Philadelphia under the lunatic Krasner, than it would be further north and west of Philly, the suburbs where sanity still resides. Which is why you only see these Soros-funded anarchy festivals in jurisdictions where the DA is on board with hating America and white people and the law-abiding.
    Here in PA, doesn’t Castle doctrine apply once they begin attempting to, or get inside your vehicle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by staylo View Post
    Here in PA, doesn*t Castle doctrine apply once they begin attempting to, or get inside your vehicle?
    It shouldn't but that probably depends on whether you are in MONTCO or Berks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by staylo View Post
    Here in PA, doesn*t Castle doctrine apply once they begin attempting to, or get inside your vehicle?
    I don't know about Castle Doctrine in regards to vehicles, but once someone is trying to get into your car while you are in it , I think establishing reasonable fear of bodily harm becomes pretty easy, especially with the number of carjackings that lead to injury or death of the vehicle occupants.
    Power always thinks...that it is doing God's service when it is violating all his laws.

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