80% lower

**M77MKII** · September 13th, 2023, 10:56 PM

So if I have an 80% lower to trade to a friend for a shotty do I have to serialize the lower?Can I just make a long gun trade?

**McSull** · September 13th, 2023, 11:08 PM

Did you finish it? Or is it still in 80 percent stage?

**JaySmith** · September 13th, 2023, 11:22 PM

Doesn't matter. It's a block of metal if it's an 80%. It's a firearm if it's finished and there's no restrictions on private transfers of firearms in PA. Unless it's a pistol or you transfer it at an FFL.

**Emptymag** · September 13th, 2023, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by JaySmith

Doesn't matter. It's a block of metal if it's an 80%. It's a firearm if it's finished and there's no restrictions on private transfers of firearms in PA. Unless it's a pistol or you transfer it at an FFL.

I challenge you to make me understand what you just wrote.

LOL

**JaySmith** · September 14th, 2023, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

I challenge you to make me understand what you just wrote.

LOL

I don't have enough crayons

**HKusp 45** · September 14th, 2023, 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

I challenge you to make me understand what you just wrote.

LOL

I think he means if it's not finished in 80% form he can do what he wants because it's not a firearm , if it was a finished and either not built out or built as a rifle without the intention of originally selling it , he can private transfer it ( I am not a lawyer and none of what I am saying is legal advice anyone reading this do your own research) , if he made it without the intent to sell it originally and built it out as a pistol and was selling it as such it would require an ffl.

But i think you knew that all already lol

**giant_g2** · September 14th, 2023, 07:19 AM

What happened to Shapiro's decree that 80% recievers are now considered firearms? If that's in effect, then it could be a problem if it's used to create a handgun and didn't get transfered at an FFL.

**Walleye Hunter** · September 14th, 2023, 07:26 AM

IANAL but my understanding is that 80% is still not a firearm. IANAL but I'm thinking that in order to swap a finished modern weapon, it needs to be serialized. If I understand incorrectly, I welcome the correction and supporting documents.

**JaySmith** · September 14th, 2023, 09:47 AM

Just checked a few websites and 80%'s are still shipping to PA. Shitpiro can't just make laws, he can shove an 80% lower 80% up his ass. 5 packs are $209, 3 packs are $140, anodized singles can be had as low as $42. Everyone should have a few.

**Walleye Hunter** · September 14th, 2023, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by JaySmith

Just checked a few websites and 80%'s are still shipping to PA. Shitpiro can't just make laws, he can shove an 80% lower 80% up his ass. 5 packs are $209, 3 packs are $140, anodized singles can be had as low as $42. Everyone should have a few.

If I was inclined to buy such a thing, it would not get charged to my credit card or shipped to my house.