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April 12th, 2024, 11:26 AM #31Junior Member
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Re: ATF is changing the term "business" for FFL's.
Didn't wade through all the legalese. Bottom line...can I still occasionally make a private sale of a rifle (or shotgun) to someone in PA without going through an FFL?
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April 12th, 2024, 11:36 AM #32
Re: ATF is changing the term "business" for FFL's.
Yes.
Did you read any of the previous posts?In America arms are free merchandise such that anyone who has the capital may make their houses into armories and their gardens into parks of artillery. - Ira Allen, 1796
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April 12th, 2024, 11:50 AM #33
Re: ATF is changing the term "business" for FFL's.
The text of the statute and the new Rule are what they are; but remember what these same people did with "one pull of the trigger"?
I'd expect to see arrests of guys liquidating their collections with 10 guns on a folding table, at a gun show or flea market. Make the arrest, publish the "table of guns" pic, let the system maul the guy for a couple years.
Govt gets paid to hurt us, we have to defend ourselves with after-tax savings. That game is rigged, and explains the 99% conviction rate in Federal courts.Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.
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April 12th, 2024, 12:39 PM #34
Re: ATF is changing the term "business" for FFL's.
https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regula...earms/download
Only 466 pages. Think Garland read it before signing it?There are two kinds of guns. Those I have acquired, and those I hope to.
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April 12th, 2024, 01:43 PM #35
Re: ATF is changing the term "business" for FFL's.
Garland is spineless, he does as The Party tells him. That's why they wanted him to rubber-stamp Party demands on the Supreme Court.
You can see it in any video of him speaking. He's had all the spirit beaten out of him.
All of the leading Democrats today are figureheads, shoved to the front to do the bidding of The Party, while the real power behind the throne remains hidden, just in case Bastille Day II happens.
Look at Biden, Mayor Pete, the Energy lady, and Kamala. They're all like trained chimps in little sailor suits, given treats for dancing the routines they were taught. Mayor Pete didn't even hide it, taking office and promptly leaving to chest feed his adoptee, because he knew he was a puppet & the department didn't need his presence, then or ever. The Dept of Energy puppet was unable to answer when asked the most basic energy question, "how much oil do we use per day?"Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.
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April 12th, 2024, 03:12 PM #36Junior Member
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April 13th, 2024, 04:38 PM #37Super Member
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Re: ATF is changing the term "business" for FFL's.
I*m waiting for the exact verbiage to be released but the aim here is fairly easy to see. The newest version of the 4473 was the beginning of mandatory and universal background checks. While the rule/law/bill (whatever you want to call it) has a main purpose of nailing those guys at gun shows that get a table at the show for the last 10 to 15 years and are *selling their collection* while always having new inventory to sell at every show without being licensed. Then through the week, they run around to gun shops and browse for sale ads to buy more guns to resell at the next show. It will be interesting to see what stance show promoters will be taking on this issue. Since it goes into effect in a couple weeks, the ATF will more than likely start by harping on the folks it has had on its radar for many years. It will more than likely have an effect on gun shows table counts and more. No clear definition has been made of *engaged in the business*, but it was always meant that someone is devoting time to reselling (not necessarily for profit) firearms without becoming an FFL dealer. It would also throw in question those guys that may believe they are skirting the new rule by simply having a dealer do the transfer for them. As always, clear verbiage is not exactly outlined in redefinitions or new rules so we may just have to wait and see what unfolds.
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April 13th, 2024, 06:16 PM #38
Re: ATF is changing the term "business" for FFL's.
[QUOTE=Marines55;4894860]I*m waiting for the exact verbiage to be released but the aim here is fairly easy to see.Quote]
Its been published all you need to do is look it up!
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".
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April 13th, 2024, 06:30 PM #39Super Member
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