Close range (less than 50 yards) AR optics?

[BOHICA]

Have you looked into a Acog ?

[BerksCountyDave]

Have you looked into a Acog ?

I can't justify spending more on a fixed power optic than I did for my rifle. They're nice, but I just can't justify the expense.

[TonyF]

I can't justify spending more on a fixed power optic than I did for my rifle. They're nice, but I just can't justify the expense.

They're worth every penny (re: quality) but the higher magnification models aren't suitable for close range (CQB) and the low power models won't get you the precision you're looking for at long range.

[BerksCountyDave]

They're worth every penny (re: quality) but the higher magnification models aren't suitable for close range (CQB) and the low power models won't get you the precision you're looking for at long range.

Yeah, I'm sure they're worth every penny to someone who does the type of shooting that is going to subject their optic to abuse. I'm not one of those shooters. I'm going to need two optics to set the gun up the way I'd like to, so spending a grand on ONE of them is out of the question.

[MTechnik]

Yeah, I'm sure they're worth every penny to someone who does the type of shooting that is going to subject their optic to abuse. I'm not one of those shooters. I'm going to need two optics to set the gun up the way I'd like to, so spending a grand on ONE of them is out of the question.

just spend $1400 on the pair: http://www.opticsplanet.net/trijicon...ta01-ecos.html



(joking, but seksi)

[TonyF]

just spend $1400 on the pair:


(joking, but seksi)

The reflex sits too high (cheekweld issue again).

[MTechnik]

The reflex sits too high (cheekweld issue again).

I think at the distances you are using the red dot, cheek weld won't be as important.

[TonyF]

I think at the distances you are using the red dot, cheek weld won't be as important.

At the risk of sounding like an argumentative a$$, mounting the rifle from low ready to "sights on target" is much more critical than an "almost" parallax free reflex optic. IOW, a consistent cheekweld is the key to getting fast hits at CQB distances. Coming up from "low ready" to "on target" is very similar to having a smooth drawstroke with a handgun.

Here is Lycan's mention of cheekweld in his reply although he also frames it around ring height which is certainly part of the overall equation.

"when you slam your head into the stock the optic is ready to go and you can see. This sucks with collapseable stocks and is one reason I don't use them...."

[MTechnik]

...clip...

I wouldn't get that acog for <50 yards. Just joking there. But great info, thanks!

[hzox221]

I'm going to set up on of my AR's as a tactical shoot/three gun type of gun, with the capability for short and long range shots, i.e. a red dot/holo sight of some sort, as well as a scope. Now, I'm thinking a scope on top and a red dot off to the side at a 45 degree or so angle would be ideal. Here's my questions:

1. Aimpoint or Eotech? What makes one a better choice than another?

2. Who makes a mount that allows for mounting a red dot/eotech cocked off to the side of the rail/handguard?

For the Scope check out a Meopta Meostar K Dot http://www.swfa.com/pc-9143-1134-meo...fle-scope.aspx

True 1x4 power. Gives you the ability to have a 1x red dot and a 4x scope in the same unit. This is a very very popular scope in the 3 Gun world.

If you want a secondary optic then use a Burris Fast Dot or Doctor mounted at the 45 degree angle.

And get a VTac Handguard.