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    Default Re: Silencer on a revolver?

    With the extra weight of the suppressor on the slide, it could affect how the gun cycles.
    Suppressors are attached to the barrel, not the slide.
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    Default Re: Silencer on a revolver?

    on a slightly unrelated note
    did anyone notice how the can totaly obstructs the front sight on the revolver.
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    Default Re: Silencer on a revolver?

    Quote Originally Posted by General Geoff View Post
    Suppressors are attached to the barrel, not the slide.
    my mistake. but on the 1911, the barrel moves with the slide, so cycling can be affected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloomautomatic View Post
    my mistake. but on the 1911, the barrel moves with the slide, so cycling can be affected.

    Vince

    Correct and that is referred to as a browning action and due to the weight on the end of the barrel by putting a silencer on the end the gun generally will not be able to unlock post discharge. This is a very common problem as a large number of pistols run on this action type (1911's, Glock, Sig just to name a few).
    The other option is the barrel which doesn't move at all (Beretta, some HK's) with which you would not have the issue of the added weight, the blow back would still cycle the slide.

    The browning action issue has been over come with the Nielson devices (L.C.D.) or (L.I.D.) which are are generally needed unless the can is ultra light (think titanium) for the browning action. The Nielson device is just a piston in a sleeve and when the pressure enters the silencer it pushes back and gives added for to "Unlock" the gun from breach position enough such to let it cycle. Also most as if it is removing the wight of silencer though it doesn't.

    I'm sure that if they had anything like that back in the vietnam era it was in it's infancy of design and not robust enough to trust by the soliders.

    Hope that helps for anyone who may not understand exactly the function issue associated with Browning actions
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    Buy a silencer.

    Tax: $200
    Cost of effective 5.56 suppressor: $500
    Letting the elderly neighbors sleep in until morning: Priceless.

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    Default Re: Silencer on a revolver?

    You can only have a silencer on a revolver if you're an actor in a bad 70's cop show.
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    Default Re: Silencer on a revolver?

    The S&W mod-39 was issued as a silenced model in the late 60's-early 70's. I know this to be true because I handled/fired one. It was quiet, functioned well but was just a tad front heavy...well maybe 2 tads.

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    Default Re: Silencer on a revolver?

    Quote Originally Posted by thanker92 View Post
    The S&W mod-39 was issued as a silenced model in the late 60's-early 70's. I know this to be true because I handled/fired one. It was quiet, functioned well but was just a tad front heavy...well maybe 2 tads.
    Any idea of the material used to make the silencer? Did it have an Neilson device?

    Seems the model that has been referred to as the "hush puppy" from the Vietnam era would be the S&W mod 39 Mk 22 mod 0 and it seems it was issued to the navy special warfare units.
    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
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    Letting the elderly neighbors sleep in until morning: Priceless.

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    Default Re: Silencer on a revolver?

    Found this when browsing this website.

    http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg213-e.htm

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    Default Re: Silencer on a revolver?

    Quote Originally Posted by bloomautomatic View Post
    This raises the question, why suppress a revolver rather than the 1911? I suspect it was a functional issue. With the extra weight of the suppressor on the slide, it could affect how the gun cycles. In a DA revolver, cycling is not an issue. If I were doing that job, I know I would want 100% reliability and not have to think about clearing a jam in a 2' space.
    Revolvers have another property that can be useful for clandestine uses. They do not throw brass.

    It would be nice if there were modern revolvers with a cam system to close the cylinder gap for firing. It might be possible to get more muzzle velocity too.

    The cam system would have to be somewhat springy though. As the revolver heats up, the gap gets smaller.

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    Default Re: Silencer on a revolver?

    Resurrecting this thread as I was going to ask a similar question and...searched first!

    Anyway, I guess it's not possible unless you have a very special revolver...not a run-of-the-mill snub nose .38 that I have been seeing the bad guys screw a silencer onto on episodes of "Hawaii Five-O".

    I got the box set of the first 5 seasons and have been checking them out. Brings back good memories of growing up and watching this show.

    Most of the stories still hold up pretty well...if you look past the old technology from the 1970s

    There's even an episode with...Christopher Walken!

    BTW, you can hear McGarret mis-use the word clip for magazine...LOL!

    Last edited by HiredGoon; March 24th, 2010 at 05:07 PM.

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