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November 12th, 2008, 10:21 AM #21
Re: Fight To Reveal Obama's Birth Certificate
Honestly I am begining to wonder where you are coming from these days. Berg's loyalties have been discussed ad nausium (sp) in just about EVERY one of these threads. You have requested links to some stuff in the last few days that make me think you have been living under a rock or just had blinders on. For someone as involved in the local DNC I would have thought you would know who Berg was and who he supported. Haven't you been one of the people saying "If this were true Hillary would have tried to use it" in just about every other thread? Berg is a Hillary supporter. Hillary initially said she supported his efforts. Have you been sleeping through the other threads on this topic?
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November 12th, 2008, 11:01 AM #22Banned
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November 12th, 2008, 11:51 AM #23
Re: Fight To Reveal Obama's Birth Certificate
As I undestand it, the US recognizes dual citizenship IF AND ONLY IF the other country also recognizes dual citizenship. Since Indonesia DID NOT recognize dual citizenship at the time in question, anyone with an Indonesian citizenship could not be a US citizen at the same time. A US citizen who became an Indonesian citizen would lose the US citizenship. Since his mother/step father, as his legal guardians, changed his citizenship, his US citizenship would be lost even though he himself didn't renounce it.
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November 12th, 2008, 12:07 PM #24
Re: Fight To Reveal Obama's Birth Certificate
This issue should have been resolved in September after the lawsuit was filed but the DNC et al decided to play the delay card using all the legal tactics based on precedural issue to delay up to this point and creating a crisis situation. They could have simply addressed the allegations, submitted the required proof, and had the judge, as a trier-of-fact make a ruling. For reasons which would appear to an outsider as suspicious, they chose to duck, dodge, and obfuscate the issues.
As I understand it, the Constitutional proscription only applies to the assumption/retention of the office. If O' is determined ineligible before elected officially (electorial college - not Nov 4 election) then the college would elect a different president of their choosing. IF O' is determined ineligible after college election but before inauguration then Biden becomes president-elect. If O' is declared ineligible after inauguration then hopefully he will resign for the sake of the country otherwise either his inauguration is voided by SCOTUS or, if necessary, impeachment and removal will ensue from Congress.
It would be inconceivable that he could remain in office if determined that he didn't have the Constitutional qualifications.
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November 12th, 2008, 12:31 PM #25
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November 12th, 2008, 01:00 PM #26
Re: Fight To Reveal Obama's Birth Certificate
No way - no matter how stalwart the Democrats are in Congress. The potential riots if O' is disqualified will pale in comparison to the civil unrest if he (they) attempt to keep the office after being adjudicated invalid. The USA is not ready for nor would it tolerate a 'junta' or 'rogue' government - at least not in the foreseeable future.
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November 12th, 2008, 01:13 PM #27Banned
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November 12th, 2008, 02:22 PM #30
Re: Fight To Reveal Obama's Birth Certificate
my conspiracy theory on this is they'll hold this over obama's head, and if he doesnt play ball (warrentless wiretaps, pulling out of iraq/afganistan, repealing the patriot act, vetoing future bailout plans, ect), they'll destroy him overnight with mass mainstream media coverage of this issue.
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